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Senior Democrats in US cities are preparing to defend their communities in the event of Donald Trump’s return to the White House after the former president has repeated threats that he would use presidential powers to seize control of major urban centers.

Trump has proposed deploying the military inside major cities largely run by Democrats to deal with protesters or to crush criminal gangs. He has threatened to dispatch large numbers of federal immigration agents to carry out mass deportations of undocumented people in so-called “sanctuary” cities.

He also aims to obliterate the progressive criminal justice policies of left-leaning prosecutors.

“In cities where there has been a complete breakdown of law and order … I will not hesitate to send in federal assets including the national guard until safety is restored,” Trump says in the campaign platform for his bid to become the 47th US president, Agenda47.

Trump provoked uproar earlier this week when he called for US armed forces to be deployed against his political rivals – “the enemy within” – on election day next month. But his plans to use national guard troops and military personnel as a means to attack those he sees as his opponents go much wider than that, spanning entire cities with Democratic leadership.

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Correct, so maybe we could stop protesting Harris over Israel until AFTER the fucking election?

Just saying, we should probably stop the genocide coming for us before we try to stop the one not in our backyard? I mean it's going to be harder to get Israel to stop bombing Palestinian children and give humanitarian aide to said children while we're lined up for Trump's gas chambers

signed, a transgender woman who don't want to end up in a mass grave full of other AMAB individuals all of us wearing pink triangles!

[–] Machinist 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Fucking right?! Hate is being preached from the pulpit every Sunday supporting this clown and the machine pulling his strings.

In many places in this country our queer brothers and sisters are in mortal danger. These people hate and demonize the different and the other. It's an old playbook, but, it sure does work.

If you don't think the machine would put our people in camps; you're wearing blinders and don't know your history. Lives depend on this election.

[–] WrenFeathers 1 points 1 month ago

maybe we could stop protesting Harris over Israel until AFTER the fucking election?

We absolutely should stop until after- but I am hoping this is a thing that happens. Her feet should be held to a fire to back out of any agreements that’s causing harm to anyone.

But she needs to win first!

[–] sorval_the_eeter -5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

signed, a transgender woman who don’t want to end up in a mass grave full of other AMAB individuals all of us wearing pink triangles!

Innocent gazans and Lebanese civilians dont want to end up in a mass grave either. If you wont stand up for civilization for them why should I or anyone else stand up for civiliation for you? If we are all being so calculated and tactical as you are, whats in it for me to save you? I'm not part of the trans community.

You dont even need to stand for justice-- just stand enough that we are neutral-- that we stop sending bombs,funding, and troops, and lending coverage in the UN. Do it for your own self respect and dignity, even.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Again, I'm not saying that it's okay to sacrifice Palestinians needlessly or that their lives are less important.

I'm saying to wait a god damn month for the election to be over before we start fighting the Democratic Party

[–] sorval_the_eeter 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Presidents do care about votes during an election. They dont care about sit ins and student protests. You're asking everyone to abandon any pushback of an active genocide. You are asking them to actively support it in fact. Why not pressure Harris to get her to pledge to stop it instead.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

My one concern about her openly opposing the genocide in Gaza is that it would likely cause the electoral college to just hand the vote to Trump. That will be way worse for Palestinians overall. Don't forget Trump didn't win the popular vote in 2016.

Unfortunately there are too many people in the US government who are invested in supporting Israel, and it's not out of the realm of possibility that the electoral college is compromised like our supreme court is. Israel could be the make it or break it on that front.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Simple question: do you think voting in Trump again will make fighting for stopping the genocide in Gaza & Lebanon earlier or harder?

[–] sorval_the_eeter -2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think is she doesnt change her stand on it she has a good chance of losing.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's a non answer. Do you think helping steer votes away from her and towards Trump helps or hurts your goal of ending the genocide?

[–] sorval_the_eeter 2 points 1 month ago

I think it makes no difference whatsoever, when both are bought off by AIPAC money toward the same ends. But I do think there is only one that can conceivably be pressured to stop doing that, and only our every 4 year vote matters to them. Pushing on Trump is useless. This is your one chance to lift a finger to do the right thing with some pushback and demanding the shipments stop.

[–] WhatYouNeed -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Innocent Americans don't want to suffer either.

Vote for orange arsewipe or his conservative enablers, Americans will suffer.

[–] sorval_the_eeter 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

In the process of playing chicken with her to see who blinks first, yes, she might lose some votes. But she was going to lose some votes anyway because of the far right Israeli war, that she could win back that number and more if she alters her position to one that resonates with more Americans around the legends we tell ourselves about who we are. These are votes in key swing states that she could gain.

That loss of votes either way is on her and the cadre of scumbag consultants doing tactical spreadsheets based on issue support, weighing if they can keep that sweet sweet AIPAC money. You are just playing her and netenyahus game and you cant even see it that you have multiple peoples hands up your rear using you as a sock puppet. You allow that because you are utterly terrified, and that part is understandable.