this post was submitted on 17 Oct 2024
21 points (57.6% liked)
Technology
60048 readers
2790 users here now
This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.
Our Rules
- Follow the lemmy.world rules.
- Only tech related content.
- Be excellent to each another!
- Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
- Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
- Politics threads may be removed.
- No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
- Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
- Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed
Approved Bots
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
Great, is there a method that eliminates all byproducts of fossil fuels?
It reduces them dramatically, to something we can easily deal with, that's huge.
How many solar panels and batteries are needed to power every electrical grid on the planet?
Where do we locate all of the panels and batteries?
Where do we get all of the materials for all of the panels and batteries?
What is the total cost to operate and maintain that global power grid?
What is the lifespan of the grid?
What happens to all of the panels and batteries at end of life, and how much does it cost?
Exactly. Solar panels and batteries can theoretically be recycled, but we generally don't bother today, and there's a lot more bulk in dealing with old panels and batteries than spent nuclear fuel rods.
So dealing with the waste of nuclear is a more constant thing, but also much lower volume than something like solar panels or batteries.
I think we need both, but ideally we use something other than batteries for base load supply, and only use it to store excess peak generation (or ideally, use something other than batteries for short-term storage, like hydrogen or hydro pumps).
https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2023/10/clearing-forests-to-erect-solar-panels-may-not-be-clean-energy-solution/
You also need to think about the space required for these solar farms. I can tell you that I've seen some barby forests and animals living there completely wiped out for building solar farms.
When the intent is making money, there are no clean energies...
Firstly, we'll get there in time.
Secondly, having baseload vastly reduces the amount of batteries needed, and overall is helpful, and nuclear is one of the best baseloads there is.
By any logic we should work on fusion research because it's the actual solution, but the enemy isn't nuclear or renewables, it's fossil fuels, they must be killed as brutally as possible, not just for their ecological impact, but also for their political impact, which may be the most toxic of all.
Imagine the politics of this country if Texas wasn't "Saudi Oil Money" rich and didn't try to screw over our politics on a constant basis. They're the reason we don't have nuclear already, they'd much rather keep everyone on the dinosaur habit than let us move forward an inch.