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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (11 children)

No, they're pointing out the obvious. Newsweek isn't what it used to be, and the claims are all sourced from Ukraine, with no external on the record confirmations, yet.

Ukrainian media has a moral obligation to service the propaganda needs of the war. That's neither good, nor bad, that's just a part of being in an existential war for survival. I don't blame them for it, and I'm certainly not bashing them for, I'm just pointing out reality.

I can't speak for the person you're responding to, but I have no trouble understanding why North Korea would send thousands of support personnel to Ukraine as the logistical tail to support their weapons platforms. Western nations have been doing the same thing inside Ukraine.

Maybe the story is true, it's possible. But I'm going to need to see better sources provided then a Kyiv Post article citing unnamed Western officials or Newsweek using Ukrainian articles as their source information.

That's it. If anything, it's more unreasonable to not be skeptical of early reports coming from any war zone, whether you want to believe them, or not.

[–] Noobnarski 8 points 1 month ago (3 children)

At least what Ukraine is claiming is somewhat based in reality compared to what russia claims.

According to russian sources, russia has destroyed some vehicle and plane types in higher numbers than ukraine ever had, yet Ukraine still has some.

Weird how that works.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I don't understand how anything I said inferred credibility unto Russian sources, much less Russian MOD claims on Ukrainian losses.

Can you reread my original comment, and then explain to me how anything I said, is directly related to anything you just said?

[–] Noobnarski 2 points 1 month ago

Nothing you said inferred credibility unto Russian sources, I just wanted to add my take on the bigger picture.

Which is, that Ukrainian reporting is probably not 100% correct and there probably are inflations somewhere (like you said), it is still bound to reality, while Russian reporting lost its touch with reality on day one.

I guess its a knee jerk reaction to all the tankies defending russia lol

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