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The engines rev, the guitars thrum and a gruff narrator lays out why the vehicle occupying the driveway is more than just a machine. “A truck is a tool,” he says, “but a Ram – a Ram is life.”

So begins an advert for the Ram 1500, a pickup truck slightly bigger than the Panzer I tanks of Nazi Germany and almost as heavy. It is growing in popularity in Europe, with the number of Rams arriving on the continent up 20% in 2023 from the year before, according to registration data from the European Environment Agency. Road safety and environmental campaigners in the UK and Europe are aghast as the latest, most extreme cases of North American car bloat – giant pickup trucks – are increasingly crossing the Atlantic.

“Europe should ban the Ram,” said Dudley Curtis from the European Transport Safety Council. “This type of vehicle is excessively heavy, tall and powerful, making it lethal in collisions with normal-sized vehicles, pedestrians and cyclists.”

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Homeless people aren't buying new trucks.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Let's just say the definition of "homeless" people has expanded quite a bit in the last decade. Plenty of homeless people work 9-5 jobs.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (2 children)

But are they buying expensive trucks? Still doubtful.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

There are people working at Google living in their Tesla because they can't afford rent in Silicon Valley

[–] [email protected] -5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Ford also famously runs ads (in the US) boasting about their lie-flat drivers seats in their trucks because so many people can afford a truck payment but not a rent payment.

Beats being on the streets which is almost impossible to come back from.

The collapse of Western society is being witnessed by hearing anecdotes on forums until you’re the one in the anecdote.

The disadvantaged are simply swept into the streets to die, and washed into the gutters afterwards (Newsom, anyone?).

Ironic, considering how often people lose their shit over fabricated Tiananmen propaganda.

[–] Windex007 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Care to expand on the Tiananmen propaganda comment?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There are a lot of western narratives about the June 4th incident that are atrocity propaganda contradicted by western reporting at the time of the incident

[–] Windex007 -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The June 4th incident is what it is called in mainland China.

[–] Windex007 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Oh fuck he is trying to make me say "tiananmen square massacre" now Xi is going to personally come to my house and eat all my grain with his giant spoon.

Or maybe I say June 4th incident because it didn't happen in tiananmen square and massacre isn't the right word for it, considering it was armed PLA vs western armed protestors with around equal casualties before it ended.

[–] Windex007 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

No, I was just trying to drag out of you how you see the incident without priming the pump. How does one minimize the killing of hundreds of unarmed students? I knew people like you existed, I just never had the opportunity to witness someone actually do it, and I was curious how it's done.

You roll 20 additional days into it as a buffer, and count injuries as equivalent to murders, and let them happen anywhere.

It can't be the "Tiananmen Square Massacre" for you because then couldn't draw in PLA members who had heart attacks and died elsewhere that day because they weren't at the square. You need to create a context where they're all the same thing and the geography of place really damages the ability to do that.

You just dilute a massacre to make it not a massacre by expanding the time and places. Super interesting. It's a distinctly different approach to propegands than you'd typically see in the west or Russia.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You're making a lot of false assumptions here that lead me to believe that this is not actually, as you claim, your first time encountering this viewpoint, and your intention isn't to learn or honestly engage but to discredit and spread your own dishonest talking points.

[–] Windex007 -2 points 2 months ago

Oh, no, I'm absolutely not trying to engage as if this person is holding the objective truth because they aren't. I'm not either. They just have had a different brainwashing than most so I'm interested in the flavour. I'm interested in hearing their views, fact checking them, and using that to reverse engineer the intiontions of those who are feeding them a moral rationalization.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

"What we actually are hoping for is bloodshed, the moment when the government is ready to brazenly butcher the people. Only when the Square is awash with blood will the people of China open their eyes" - Chai Ling

But they didn't get it, so they had to exaggerate armed skirmishes into "they machinegunned sitting student protestors"

It can’t be the “Tiananmen Square Massacre” for you because then couldn’t draw in PLA members who had heart attacks and died elsewhere that day because they weren’t at the square.

You can literally find photos of protestors posing with burnt and mutilated bodies of PLA soldiers

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

The collapse of Western society is being witnessed by hearing anecdotes on forums until you’re the one in the anecdote.

The icing on this shit cake is that people will refuse to believe that anecdotes are true and even the most progressive people will make jokes about it publicly as evidenced by .worlders

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

I don't know about the UK; but over here it's MUCH easier to get a car loan than a mortgage or rental lease