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Mazda's $10 subscription for remote start sparks backlash after killing open source workaround via DMCA takedown (www.carscoops.com)

submitted 2 months ago by ForgottenFlux to c/technology

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Mazda recently surprised customers by requiring them to sign up for a subscription in order to keep certain services. Now, notable right-to-repair advocate Louis Rossmann is calling out the brand.

It’s important to clarify that there are two very different types of remote start we’re talking about here. The first type is the one many people are familiar with where you use the key fob to start the vehicle. The second method involves using another device like a smartphone to start the car. In the latter, connected services do the heavy lifting.

Transition to paid services

What is wild is that Mazda used to offer the first option on the fob. Now, it only offers the second kind, where one starts the car via phone through its connected services for a $10 monthly subscription, which comes to $120 a year. Rossmann points out that one individual, Brandon Rorthweiler, developed a workaround in 2023 to enable remote start without Mazda’s subscription fees.

However, according to Ars Technica, Mazda filed a DMCA takedown notice to kill that open-source project. The company claimed it contained code that violated “[Mazda’s] copyright ownership” and used “certain Mazda information, including proprietary API information.”

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[–] SeemsNormal 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I use mine all the time. I have about a 1/4 mile walk to get to my car, I like to start it in winter to heat up, or summer to cool down before I get to it.

It’s a luxury, but one I enjoy.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Lora and other RF based communication protocols exist and are much better ideas than using the internet. If someone is starting their car they are probably less than a mile away and the benefits of having something that works regardless of cell towers probably outweigh the benefits of being able to use it through bunker doors and across the globe.

[–] frizop 9 points 2 months ago

add that an internet connected car is not something we want, we want our remotes which we already have to do this

[–] SeemsNormal 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I’m not familiar with Lora or other RF systems. Can they adjust temperatures too?

My other vehicle is from 1976… I love it and I love the ability for me to fix it without plugging a computer in.

Walking a 1/4 mile in cold wind to a warm car that’s already defrosted is pretty amazing though. And I’m vehemently against subscriptions where possible, so I get the hatred towards connected cars as well.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Lora is mostly intended for small packets of information (like sensors), temperature could be sent in base 1 and still be sendable over it.