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It has been said a gazillion times over the last few months, but is it getting through to those who need to hear it?

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[–] acosmichippo 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That will be the least of our problems if you let trump win for the sake of protest votes. A generation from now we will be completely fucked with even more stacked federal courts, even worse climate change, continued dismantling of healthcare, a decimated government from project 2025, etc, etc.

[–] voiceofchris -5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

"for the sake of protest votes" Not everyone sees a vote for a third party as a "protest vote". Some see it as a real investment now for a better future for the country.

The points you raise do sound troubling, don't they? But can you remeber an election in the last 25 years where letting the "wrong guy" win wasn't posed as the single worst thing possible. The things you mention are bad, yes, but they are also no different than the alarmist rallying cries that have been used every 4 years for the last.. forever.

[–] acosmichippo 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

The things you mention are bad, yes, but they are also no different than the alarmist rallying cries that have been used every 4 years for the last… forever.

alarmist? Look at the state of the Supreme Court that overturned Roe v Wade. Look at the state of the climate that's wrecking us with heat, massive fires, and hurricanes every single year now. These are real, material issues that we've been needing to address for decades, and we're paying the price for failing to do so.

All of this vastly outweighs any nebulous benefit you think will come of voting for a 3rd party, whatever you want to call it.

[–] voiceofchris -4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So this election cycle it's climate and the Supreme Court for you. That's great. If you feel Harris will help fix those things then have it. The policies I'm voting for will absolutely help with those issues. Every 4 years there are going to be major major things that folks think their particular guy or gal is going to fix. And then they won't. And then there'll be another (or the same) set of things in another four years. I'm gonna go ahead and vote for some real change instead.

[–] acosmichippo 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

you’re voting for nothing friend.

[–] voiceofchris -1 points 1 month ago

I find it to be quite the opposite.

[–] Cryophilia 3 points 1 month ago

But can you remeber an election in the last 25 years where letting the “wrong guy” win wasn’t posed as the single worst thing possible.

McCain and Romney I fundamentally disagreed with but no one ever claimed they'd be the death of democracy. This is a claim that is very specific to Donald Trump. We don't just pull it up every single election.