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For decades, we have been in the streets in defense of the Palestinian people, and will continue to fight until the total liberation of Palestine!
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I was talking to a girl in beyruth. She was concerned about her parents. She wanted to flee to jordan, but the planes are full. Here's the exchange.
Yep. That sucks. Doesn't change that I'm voting for Kamala.
I'd rather her be in charge than Donald "Finish the Job" Trump.
What are you doing to push Harris to the left on this position? She needs to change, not just because it's the right thing to do, but because it could cost her the election. If you're so worried about Trump winning, you need her to change on this.
Me? Not a whole lot if I'm being honest. I'm more focused on local issues in my deep red state to really worry about other things. "Put on your breathing mask before assisting others" or however the safety tag reads
Don't worry, Biden sent in the troops and approved the invasion of Lebanon.
Welcome to US foreign policy, paid for by all our tax dollars regardless of who is in charge.
Yep, therefore both the DNC and GOP represent "finish the job" genocide and ought to be abandoned entirely.
Nope. There are degrees of escalation and the possibility of pullback with one of them (hint: Evangelicals are a big part of the Republican base, who believe Israel plays a role in doomsday).
If the US went gloves off there wouldn't be any Palestinian alive in a month if I'm being honest.
The US is already gloves off. They aren't exterminating palestinians for moral reasons, they don't give a shit about evangelicals. It's about economics.
You've got a lot to learn about your enemies if you think it's purely economics for these nutcases lol
You also need to learn the definition of "gloves off." The US still has chemical weapons and I've yet to see footage of US infantry going house to house mowing down children
You've got a lot to learn about foreign politics if you think it's driven by individual madmen.
You also need to understand that the US isn't going to dedicate themselves to exterminating Gaza, they will just let Israel do it. Israel is doing it for land reasons.
There are very wealthy individuals who are backing them for religious reasons, who bribe politicians and pay AIPAC because they want their religious nonsense to happen.
Israel sees this ans uses it to their advantage
The root of the issue is economic, the religious bit is justification.
Those wealthy people, even taking the religious motivation thing completely at face value, are paupers next to the MIC, and Israel is furthermore vital to protecting US geopolitical interests in the region, take it from the President.
I do not care about you at all.
And yet you replied to me first...how odd
In response to a first hand account of fear over genocidal bombing campaigns and exodus, you decided to center yourself and try to get in some genocidal-apologetic zingers.
Yup. I'm basically Hitler II
Hitler was in a position of power. You are more of a Himmler supporter that rationalizes pogroms.
Ehhh...Himmler had more power than I do. I'd be more of a faceless Nazi bureaucrat stamping the train schedules.
I said supporter of Himmler, not Himmler himself.
Your flippant celebration of complicity in genocide gives you a lot in common with the people you claim to oppose.
Nah, Himmler was too into the whole "German super race" and occultism - too "out there" for me personally.
And your flippant use of "you support genocide" to random people at the ballot box really helps the average person see the values of ditching capitalism.
Did you know that analogies are different from exactly equivalent things? You are doing deflecting dances to avoid the actual challenge. You are a supporter of a genocidal regime, and continuing that regime, and you rationalize this to yourself as harm reduction. Which is, incidentally, a bad faith appropriation of leftist thought.
I do not say that flippantly, I say it with all seriousness. You are now just copying my terms because you would like to pretend there is hypocrisy, the highest of crimes in a liberal mind.
We are on a Lemmy server and you are advocating for a genocidal campaign with bad faith rhetoric.
Principled agitation is absolutely essential for growing the movement. It works for recruitment and it works for changing "the discourse". I have actual experience and success with this. I am positive you do not.