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Why self host a password manager? (programming.dev)
submitted 2 months ago by [email protected] to c/selfhosted
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I'm going to move away from lastpass because the user experience is pretty fucking shit. I was going to look at 1pass as I use it a lot at work and so know it. However I have heard a lot of praise for BitWarden and VaultWarden on here and so probably going to try them out first.

My questions are to those of you who self-host, firstly: why?

And how do you mitigate the risk of your internet going down at home and blocking your access while away?

BitWarden's paid tier is only $10 a year which I'm happy to pay to support a decent service, but im curious about the benefits of the above. I already run syncthing on a pi so adding a password manager wouldn't need any additional hardware.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I'm self-hosting a VaultWarden install, and I'm doing it because uh, well, at this point I've basically ended up hosting every service I use online at this point.

Though, for most people, there's probably no real reason to self-host their own password manager, though please stop using Lastpass because they've shown that they're utterly incompetent repeatedly at this point.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I will likely move away.

My understanding with lastpass was that they had a breach but only encrypted data was stolen? What did I miss?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It was, IIRC, 3 separate breaches, plus a situation where the default KDF iterations on the vault was set to low as to actually make said encrypted data crackable.

The last I don't really blame them for necessarily, but rather shows that they weren't paying any attention to what their platform would actually protect against and what the threat landscape was and thus they never increased it and worse, when they did, they didn't force older vaults to increase it because it would be mildly inconvenient to users.

Basically, just a poor showing of data stewardship and if there's ONE thing you want your password manager to be good at, it's that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Yeah that tracks, tbh I had set mine higher so wasn't an issue for me - but their UX, particularly on Android, is appalling.

[–] ObsidianZed 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Just curious, how do you host it? Do you have it containerized or no?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Yeah, I run everything in containers, minus a couple of things like the nginx install that's doing reverse proxy work.