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EDIT: See @AnimePhantasm comment below! My friend called the election board and they confirmed what @AnimePhantasm and @fmstrat commented! This was Virginia reusing last year’s envelopes.

OP I am an absentee voter in Blacksburg just next door. Shine a light on the blacked out part. I am 99% sure this is legit, they just crossed out the witness requirement. I can see the word witness under the sharpie in your picture. Virgina doesnt have to do that witness thing anymore. We did at the last general election, so I am guessing they just reused the same envelopes. You should call and ask your elections office before alerting the news. They are hardworking folks whose jobs are already 100 times harder then they used to be. Stirring up reports of election fraud where it isn't happening makes us just as bad as them.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

As I understand it, a fairly bulletproof method is to vote using a machine that prints out a human readable card with a punch through the candidates you voted for. So you can confirm the machine understood the options you tapped and then drop the paper ballot into a secure box, which can be used as a backup for manual recounts.

Anybody know if this is what the experts [still] want?

[–] Tarquinn2049 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Honestly, while it would certainly help sell it to less technical people. There is no need for a paper copy to make it impossible to get away with tampering with digital voting, building in safeguards entirely digitally is actually enough.

But yes, most commonly recommended option is to have the machines do a quick result, and then paper to verify.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Right on.

Found an article from four years ago that I must’ve read by the way - maybe you already know all about it:

Why experts are overwhelmingly skeptical of online voting

[–] Tarquinn2049 1 points 1 month ago

Yeah, it can't be done online, which is why the physical machines are the focus. They can be incredibly tamper resistant, but more importantly, impossible to get away with tampering with them.