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Gisèle Pelicot: Judge rules public can view French mass rape trial video evidence (www.bbc.com)

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[–] Seleni 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

1 in 2 women have experienced sexual harassment in some form.

1 in 4 have been sexually assaulted.

One could cry ‘not all men!’ and that is most certainly true. But it is still doubtful it is a small minority running about perpetrating all these acts. Even if it is not 1 in 4 men committing the assaults, those numbers are still far too high.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

it’s clearly not 1 in 4 men each sexually assaulting one woman…
you can probably apply the old Zipf math too it and assume a very small percentage of men are responsible for the vast majority of it….

but still, we need to find their websites and track them all down, much like CSAM websites….

[–] Seleni 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I very, very much doubt it’s a tiny minority. But even if it’s, let’s say, 1 in 200 men doing it, that’s still a very large number of people. Way too many people. And realistically I doubt the number is that low given the frequency of occurrences and the scope of area over which they occur.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

A problem is also the idea of "doing it" as the key phrase here.

What is "it" exactly? Is "it" drugging women and raping them? That might even be fewer than 1/200. I sure as hell hope it is. In either case it's surely too many - enough that you should never fucking leave your drink unattended.

Is "it" being a bit lax on consent? She's drunk, you're drunk, you're in bed together, she's so drunk it's not really clear what she wants. You made it this far, surely that's consent enough? In this category of rape, I think there's a whole lot more than one in two hundred.

Your partner says she doesn't feel like it, but you'll go for it anyway - it's not like she's fighting to resist you either? Yeah, a whole lot more than one in two hundred.

Groping someone in a club when drunk? Hell, we've all seen it happen from people we genuinely thought knew better.

I like to believe that the amount of men who would, say, drug and rape someone, is in a very tiny majority. But as for men willing to make arguments about "blurred lines" where there is none, I'm sadly less optimistic.