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End Capitalism Before It Ends US (lemmy.ml)

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What I'm saying is the Marxist statements are entirely irrelevant once they agreed to run in an election.

No. Lenin advocated participation in bourgeois elections for the reasons I gave, delegitimizing the electoral system and advertising strength and the platform.

They never grew up out of their Marxist phase in college, have no idea how any of this works, and it shows.

What is a "Marxist phase?" You have no idea what they are trying to do or why, and you make up in your mind palace contradictory positions they don't hold because you haven't read Marx.

[–] jordanlund -4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Marxist Phase - The typical college obsession before people actually grow up and realize it's all nonsense.

See also: Randian phase.

Some people grow out of it, some don't.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You seem to think you've got Marxism all figured out for someone that can't seem to grasp the basics of it. Mind explaining what about Marxism is "all nonsense?"

[–] jordanlund -4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's great in theory, but it doesn't actually work in real life. It never has. This is why people look at these Marxists trying to run in a Presidential election and just point and laugh.

It's an angsty philosophy for young people who haven't learned better yet.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

It's great in theory, but it doesn't actually work in real life. It never has.

It does work, and continues to. Please explain exactly what you mean here, you're just vaguely gesturing. What was Marx wrong about? What part of Marxism doesn't work? Can you give concrete examples of trackable metrics?

This is why people look at these Marxists trying to run in a Presidential election and just point and laugh.

You do, sure. Marxism is rising in the US, though, as the contradictions within Capitalism Marx noted result in further wealth disparity. It's also increasingly popular worldwide, the PRC is the largest economy in the world and is run along Marxist-Leninist lines. Less than a month ago, Sri Lanka elected a Marxist-Leninist president.

It's an angsty philosophy for young people who haven't learned better yet.

What's better, in your eyes? What would you recommend a Marxist read or learn from to "grow out of Marxism?" Your "great in theory, not in practice" US State Department nonsense has been repeated constantly, every single Marxist has heard that before, I'm talking about actual points.

I suggest you read Blackshirts and Reds, it's a great book debunking common anticommunist myths.