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As a new reddit exile, I may be misunderstanding this.

In theory something like a !gaming community could crop up on multiple large instances, especially during the mass exodus while instances are getting hammered with spikes in volume.

If that's the case, we'll have fragmented communities across instances. Is there any way besides subscribing to each of them to combine them into a sort of multi-reddit type aggregation? Or is this considered a temporary (albeit important to adoption) problem during the crazy stages?

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[–] CannaVet 15 points 2 years ago (2 children)

You might be completely incompatible with federation. I mean this with zero ill intention, it just might not be the alternative YOU are looking for. Reddit and lemmy are separate projects with separate goals and means. Centralization is what led to the issues leading to people exodusing from Reddit, but now everyone is upset that it's not centralized here. If you want one single set of users crammed into one single set of communities, this just isn't it by design.

As somebody who likes sharing my opinion and bickering about them, I've run afoul of power mods on Reddit in the past and been blanket banned from like 8 subs at once for liking firehouse subs over subway or some such nonsense. Here, if I'm banned from [email protected] I can still fiddle around on [email protected]. I can spin up my own instance and start [email protected] if I want.

It's important to remember that this is NOT REDDIT. This is a different project with different goals and different methods of achieving those goals. IIRC there are people trying to build a more 1 for 1 replacement for Reddit, and if that's what you want - great! Find one and enjoy it, but don't try to force lemmy to centralize and just become Reddit 2, because that's not the goal or intention of the project.

[–] dx1 5 points 2 years ago

undefined> Centralization is what led to the issues leading to people exodusing from Reddit, but now everyone is upset that it’s not centralized here

Every locals complaint about people moving to their area ever, "they hated Idaho so much but now they're here trying to turn Arkansas right back into Idaho!"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Here, if I'm banned from [email protected] I can still fiddle around on [email protected].

Huh, you can? I've been told that bans are federated, so if you're banned on one lemmy instance, you are also automatically banned across all connected instances.

[–] DarraignTheSane 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

If you're banned by an admin on your login Lemmy server, then that account is basically done for and you'd need to create another account on that server or on another server. However, by default I believe server bans are temporary, usually only for a few days.

But if you've been banned from a community (a sub) by a mod, that ban is only in effect for that community on that server. Nothing is stopping you from participating in any other community on any other Lemmy server.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Thank you for the clarification!

And what happens if an admin of a non-login server bans a user? Is that just a ban across all communities of that specific server?

[–] DarraignTheSane 2 points 2 years ago

I would assume so. The ban wouldn't affect anything beyond their own server.

[–] Houdini 5 points 2 years ago

I don't think that's accurate.

[–] CannaVet 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I'm as new as the next guy, but that certainly doesn't mesh with my understanding of federation at all. Per my understanding, communities are completely unrelated across instances. AITA on lemmy.world can be run by UserA and have SetofrulesA with BanlistA, while AITA on lemmy.ml can be run by UserB with SoR-B and BL-B. AFAIK It's the entire point of federation, that if I don't like how AITA on lemmy.whatevs is run I can spin up my own and go on my merry way.

Perhaps someone more in the know will turn up but I believe that you were told wrong.