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Mozilla recently removed every version of uBlock Origin Lite from their add-on store except for the oldest version.

Mozilla says a manual review flagged these issues:

Consent, specifically Nonexistent: For add-ons that collect or transmit user data, the user must be informed...

Your add-on contains minified, concatenated or otherwise machine-generated code. You need to provide the original sources...

uBlock Origin's developer gorhill refutes this with linked evidence.

Contrary to what these emails suggest, the source code files highlighted in the email:

  • Have nothing to do with data collection, there is no such thing anywhere in uBOL
  • There is no minified code in uBOL, and certainly none in the supposed faulty files

Even for people who did not prefer this add-on, the removal could have a chilling effect on uBlock Origin itself.

Incidentally, all the files reported as having issues are exactly the same files being used in uBO for years, and have been used in uBOL as well for over a year with no modification. Given this, it's worrisome what could happen to uBO in the future.

And gorhill notes uBO Lite had a purpose on Firefox, especially on mobile devices:

[T]here were people who preferred the Lite approach of uBOL, which was designed from the ground up to be an efficient suspendable extension, thus a good match for Firefox for Android.

New releases of uBO Lite do not have a Firefox extension; the last version of this coincides with gorhill's message. The Firefox addon page for uBO Lite is also gone.

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[–] voracitude 19 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

Edit: bloody hell, I hadn't looked into Brave that deeply yet, fuck Brendan Eich and fuck Peter Thiel.

Jesus. A day without bad news from Mozilla would be nice. I am beginning to feel a distinct need to switch browsers. ~~and Brave is currently looking like the best balance between compatibility and privacy. I've only been resistant to Brave because it's based on Chromium and~~ I want to support non-Chrome browser engines, but the Firefox forks I've tried like Waterfox and Pale Moon just aren't there yet in terms of usability for me (primarily, wide protocol support for web video playback).

Anyone got any better suggestions, by any chance?

[–] woelkchen 88 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Brave is currently looking like the best balance between compatibility and privacy.

Brave is the funding vehicle of a far right political activist. Fuck Brendan Eich, fuck Brave.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 months ago (1 children)

IIRC it's not just Eich but also political agent Peter Thiel, the guy who created a surveillance network so powerful that the NSA relies on him.

[–] woelkchen 14 points 2 months ago
[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I had forgotten why I dropped Brave. This was why.

[–] woelkchen 33 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Brave is also Chromium-based, so switching to that does nothing to promote a web without a Google engine monopoly. Of the three serious engine developers, Google (Chromium), Apple (WebKit), and Mozilla (Gecko), Mozilla is still the least worst option (and that's saying a lot as this story makes evident once again). FF alternatives like LibreWolf rely in Mozilla Firefox development because they don't do engine development. I hope the Servo revival turns that into a serious contender.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

That's why I still use FF. I wish they were run by better people, but it's still not on par with Google's shit.

And they still offer useful features/services like email masks, cookie containers, and a VPN (which is rebranded Mullvad). If they were awful bad actors, they would be running their own exit nodes and surreptitiously collecting user data that way.

[–] Draconic_NEO 10 points 2 months ago

Let's also not forget their many privacy violations, including secretly whitelisting Facebook trackers that everyone seems to have forgot about.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 months ago (1 children)

https://librewolf.net/

It's very privacy focused but if sites break you can turn of fingerprinting protection and thing like that in the settings with one click.

Great browser

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

LibreWolf still depends on Firefox for continued development. If Mozilla goes under, I don't see it having all that much of a future.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If Mozilla goes under, the main funders (except google) will start funding the librewolf team instead, and they'll have more than enough resources to maintain the browser since librewolf devs don't spend 99% of their funding on other garbage unlike Mozilla. Maybe it is about time we hand over the browser to more capable people.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Librewolf is a tiny niche within a tiny niche. No one at Google has even heard of it, and they're certainly not going to start throwing money at a tiny obscure browser fork with zero web engine development experience if Firefox dies. Librewolf is a cool project, and I will gladly recommend it, but it dies with Firefox. It only even makes sense to consider the possibility if you have absolutely no self awareness of how small of a community we are at all.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't know, we've had small communities grow gigantic overnight after a larger one collapsed. Lemmy being one example. I think once something like that happens, more developers and users will flood librewolf.

Wanting privacy is no longer niche. People just don't know where to go.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Lemmy is very much not gigantic. It has tens of thousands of acitve users. Reddit has hundreds of millions. Librewolf is even more niche than Lemmy is. Librewolf isn't even really a browser, it's just a small patchset for Firefox. It only has it's own name and logo because Mozilla doesn't like people distributing modified versions of Firefox with their branding attached. Librewolf is very cool, but jumping straight from that to full on taking Gecko maintenance on completely is just a silly idea. I hope that if Mozilla does fail someone takes over Firefox from them, but Mozilla isn't running out of Google money any time soon, and Librewolf isn't even likely to be who takes it over if it does happen. It's way more likely to end up in the hands of a big Linux distro, or even a new organization formed specifically for the purpose of taking Firefox over. All this talk of Librewolf being the savior of Gecko based browsers is completely disconnected from the reality of what Librewolf is.

[–] zkfcfbzr 1 points 2 months ago

I hope that if Mozilla does fail someone takes over Firefox from them

I'm of course rooting for Mozilla, but if things do go sideways...

Please be Proton, please be Proton

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

Check out zen browser! Built on Firefox and takes inspiration from arc. Built by a solo dev. I’ve really been liking it. https://zen-browser.app/