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[–] Buffalox 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Found the source again, and you are decidedly lying!!

https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/09/24/7476472/

They write the information is being confirmed, and it's a translation problem. That means it's being updated.
It's 100% normal military procedure, to confirm/update any incoming information as new information arrives. These people are NOT native english speakers.

You are being an asshole. And you are arguing from ignorance.

[–] jordanlund -3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

That's the exact same source I've been quoting.

The one that says:

"Source: General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on Facebook"

and

"This information is being verified".

Source is unvetted information from a Facebook page.

You wouldn't accept it if Russia was doing it, or if Israel was doing it, we aren't accepting it from Ukraine either.

[–] Buffalox 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Source is unvetted information from a Facebook page.

I have personally shown you the link that proves the numbers are the official numbers.
It has been explained very clearly to you that your claim is false, the posts on facebook are OFFICIAL by the armed forces!!
That the numbers are being verified is a normal military jargon, because war is chaos, and the influx of information is constant.
The numbers are verified for instance by flyovers, all military in the world do this!! These numbers are verified constantly, and what we get is a "snapshot" every day.

For a period of almost a year, the numbers in English were ONLY available on the OFFICIAL facebook and telegram page for the armed forces. While the ministry of defense only posted the numbers in Ukrainian and without the graphics.

You are being unreasonable and stubborn for some reason, chaotic yes, good no.

Your claim is false, your reasons are based on ignorance, you are outright lying to support your claim and you are being stubborn as an ass about it. Even if everything you claim was true, pravda.ua is a reputable news source.

You wouldn’t accept it if Russia was doing it,

This is whataboutism ands a false equivalence, what russian source are you referring to? The Russian Pravda is state owned propaganda, and in Russia if a journalist even call it a war, they will be send to prison!!! Ukraine has free press, Russia does not.

Pravda.ua is part of the free press in line with mostly every other western country.the article was demonstrated to be based on OFFICIAL data.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Thanks. It must not be easy to impartially moderate content regarding a war and keeping it factual, when most of the userbase lives in countries directly or indirectly on one side of the conflict.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That’s why they should be falling back on the reputable sources as shown by their own MBFC bot instead of playing backseat journalist and questioning individual sources within an article.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sure, but if no reputable sources are available for a specific matter yet (which is especially common when it comes to war bullet-ins from the government of one of the two fronts) then what? Moreover, what would "falling back" consist of? Positing a comment? The user that posted the thing was not banned, and they were clearly instructed to re-post from a more reliable source.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

But that’s the whole point - the source linked in the original post is deemed to be reliable by their own determined tool. So why is a mod nitpicking the text within the linked article? It’s either a reputable source or not. They kept stuff from the New York Times about the Oct 6 attacks even though that didn’t have good sources, and they throw out anything from Fox News even if it’s factually correct.

The mod made a mistake and didn’t seem to realize that the Ukrainian Pravda (legit, privately owner, reliable) is different from Russian Pravda (owned by Russian Communist Party, propaganda) - and keeps coming up with excuses why he did what he did. It’s sad

[–] jordanlund 2 points 1 month ago

OMG you have NO idea. I know people in Lebanon RIGHT NOW. People who have lived through previous Israeli assaults. It's super hard to step back and go "So, wait, if it were the other side doing this..."