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I'm hoping someone with knowledge of collective agreements and unions can help me understand why union members would agree to 2 weeks vacation. Doesn't a union hold more power for negotiation?

This is what I'm reading:

More than 1 year of continuous employment -> 2 weeks

From what I can tell this is less than most regular employers (maybe food industry is like that though).

I'm looking at forming a collective agreement at my workplace but seeing this result is discouraging.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

they hold more power for agreements, but it depends on the culture they're a part of.

tldr: The US is on the low end of employee rights internationally, so they get less compensation than other countries even though unions are fighting for employees constantly.

i assume you're talking about US unions since you're talking about 2 weeks of vacation, which is basically employee abuse in most countries.

Unions do have power.

If you didn't have unions, you wouldn't even have 2 weeks vacation.

you would have children working right next to you.

there would be no such thing as a sick day.

Unions are the reason you have the little employee rights and compensation you have in the states, and they're trying to get better conditions all the time, but it's very difficult in a country that's been and is being deliberately poisoned against a better work culture.

American work culture is crazy, so Americans think you're supposed to work all the time and your employers expect you to work all the time.

America is also obscenely expensive to live in for absolutely no good reason, so if you did take more than 2 weeks of vacation per year, most people wouldn't be able to afford to live inside, let alone provide themselves with food.

To get sick days or paid vacation, you and your coworkers have to pay into a fund for that to happen, and even though in the long run, better healthcare and more vacation would be a lot cheaper and more profitable for everybody, including the company, lobbyists have persuaded Americans that you're all fighting against each other and you shouldn't help anybody else because The only reason they're not receiving just compensation is because they aren't working hard enough, especially not as hard as you.

The math clearly shows that social benefit programs are better for people and more profitable for companies, but the culture you're a part of has been infected by self-interested corporate policies, so they're only interested in the profit part and not in the "better for people' part.

people in America are so poor amidst their surroundings and a lavishly projected culture that they feel pressured to work almost constantly, and so corporations siphon the value out of you and then cast you aside when you have no value left.

[–] mayo 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Thanks for the detailed reply. I'm in Canada, it's 2 weeks.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

got it.

yikes, yalls housing is the only place worse than the US at this point, huh?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

UK and AU prolly shittier than US too tbh