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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

It's not quite that bad (remember, "lead" means the difference between voting intention for each candidate, not the total voting intention for one candidate). Of those intending to vote, 8 percent intend to vote for Trump (still way too damn high; fucking turkeys voting for Christmas), 77 percent are voting for Harris and the rest are voting third party. That third party vote is also too high, but it's down to a combination of Harris being smeared (unjustly) as anti trans rights, and people who just refuse to vote for a party that supports genocide, no matter how bad the alternative is.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I was very intentional in my wording.

[–] neclimdul 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I'm confused. Did I miss understand your wording?

100 - 77 = 23; 23% < 33%

77 - 10 = 67 point lead

Admittedly the way we talk about a "point lead" is confusing and it's always useful to look at what the real numbers are and what they actually mean.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yes; I wasn’t talking about how many plan to vote for Harris or Trump, but about the fact that in the current election format, not voting for Harris makes Trump more likely to win, as all other votes are protest votes that won’t actually elect a candidate.

Once FPTP is eliminated and states use a ranked voting system, your argument comes into play. But surely people in the LGBTQ community understand that not voting for Harris in this election means not caring that Trump gets elected?

[–] Sconrad122 4 points 1 month ago

Sure, but 23% of LGBTQ voters aren't voting for Harris, which is significantly less than a third (33%). Still higher than it should be, granted, but I am pretty sure that is what the original reply comment was pointing out.