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[–] [email protected] 40 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Dunno why this thread is filled with people equating Hezbollah and Hamas, but they are different organizations representing different groups of people. Israel attacked Hezbollah with exploding pagers, not Hamas.

It's a pretty big and important distinction, because this attack by Israel was only tangentially related to their genocide in Palestine. It's further evidence of their expansionist goals as they continue a campaign of terror against other countries in the region.

[–] lieuwestra 3 points 3 months ago

Sure, but they are different just like France and Poland were different in WWII. Very much on the same side in a fight against expansionism.

[–] Fades 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

So...your theory that this proves Israeli expansionism is based on the fact that Hezbollah is not Hamas... While conveniently ignoring the generations of bad blood and historically relevant context. Could you be any more reductive?

It’s a pretty big and important distinction, because this attack by Israel was only tangentially related to their genocide in Palestine

Hezbollah chose to enter this Israel/palestine war, this isn't simply Israel taking advantage of the awful conflict to try and gain more land, it's a blatant reaction. Sure if it results in more land, great, but this sort of thing is to be expected when you send missile after missile at a country. But no, Isreal would totally only respond to lethal threats if they can meet their expansionist goals right? That's the only explanation of motivation right?

https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/what-hezbollah

Hezbollah is a Shiite Muslim political party and militant group based in Lebanon, where its extensive security apparatus, political organization, and social services network have fostered its reputation as “a state within a state.” Founded in the chaos of the fifteen-year Lebanese Civil War, the Iran-backed group is driven by its opposition to Israel and its resistance to Western influence in the Middle East.

Due to its history of carrying out terrorist attacks internationally, Hezbollah has been designated a terrorist organization by the United States and many other countries, though some just apply this label to its armed wing. Hezbollah’s deep-rooted alliances with Iran and Syria have transformed it into an increasingly effective military force, creating a formidable opponent for its longtime enemy Israel. Escalating border clashes between the two adversaries now threaten to open a new battlefront in the ongoing Israel-Hamas war, which would come at great cost to economically devastated Lebanon.

Yes Israel's disgusting expansionism is a problem, no it doesn't create a clean convenient context that aligns with moral values and right to life like the one your comment is attempting to present. Obligatory fuck the IDF, and fuck Hamas, and sure why not Hez as well. There are no angels.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

Right, the high moral ground here is "burn them all".

Please teach me more.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

Why stop emphasizing right before a very critical point that is obvious:

which would come at great cost to economically devastated Lebanon.

Hezbollah is not in a position to benefit from any altercations. It is why they aren't being the aggressor. There's just Israeli offensives taking place. Remember Israel is still also doing the same things in the West Bank they've been doing.

The absolute and incredible disparity of capabilities cannot be ignored. They aren't justification of any, but justified damnation for those in power and control.