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The UN is a diplomatic organization. It is a forum to discuss things and literally has no actual means to enforce anything. Its goal is not enforcement, it's to discuss.
Exactly. Every time the UN does something, people say "they can't enforce it".
Well, that's the whole point of the UN. To resolve things without using force.
It's a good design, designed by people who learned from the horrors of WW2.
It's sad to see how many people nowadays forget those lessons and are itching for global war.
Because there is value in a large group speaking with a unified voice to say "this is wrong, and you need to know that the rest of us think it's wrong. Your behavior will affect the relationship you have with us all going forward". Direct intervention isn't the only form of consequence.
Is it the best solution to the problem? No. Is it still worth doing? Yes.
I, personally, am itching for progress. In my lifetime. What history has proven is that progress is never achieved without bloodshed.
Though there is one very easy step the US at least can take that isn't bloodshed: STOP SELLING WEAPONS TO ISRAEL.
You got it ass-backwards. The point of the UN as opposed to LoN was that it can enforce shit. And do that very heavily. The only problem was that the chosen group of wise and powerful to decide this now includes Russia as the heir of the USSR (why the hell) and China (which is not the China that got the place initially) and UK (which is collecting cannibals to suck off all over the globe) and USA (which just arbitrarily invaded Iraq and didn't even apologize) and France (seems kinda normal, but CFA etc were not nice) and the situation really sucks.
Russia and the US are involved because the other half of the UNs purpose is to keep them both from nuking shit.
And prevent such global wars like WWII. Funnily enough, the state of Israel was funded exactly by an UN resolution, and now Israel is trying to discredit the same institution that's responsible for the existence of their state.
So about as useful as us here as far as getting anything to actually happen :(
When it comes to Israel, they have very little incentive in changing their ways when the US refuses to join the rest of the world in condemning them.
Still, there are 124 countries that made it clear that they think what Israel is doing is wrong.
What is the point of voting, especially veto, if it's all just voicing complaints?
If you hear 5 people yell at 5 people then they take a vote and the vote comes out 101 to 5 and the rest staying silent (hypothetical), it's different than 53-53. It helps you understand what others believe/support while not having to listen to all of them talk.