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[–] pyre 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

so you think murder is or should be free in an anarchist society?

[–] FlyingSquid -3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

No, I think an anarchist society won't work on a large scale because mentally ill people commit murders and you will have to have a power structure to deal with them. And then suddenly you have classes of people with different levels of power.

[–] pyre 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

yeah. anarchy doesn't mean lawlessness.

[–] FlyingSquid -3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I never said it did. I'm talking about power structures and hierarchies. You keep putting words in my mouth.

[–] pyre 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

not having any enforcement of the law is effectively lawlessness. idk how that's putting words in your mouth.

you either think anarchy is lawlessness or accept that am anarchist society would still have a way to enforce laws.

[–] FlyingSquid -3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You go ahead and have the conversation with the straw man version of me you've set up on your own because you're not talking to me or about what I'm saying. Enjoy.

[–] pyre 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

you know you can correct me instead of just denying my interpretation.

  1. do you think there would be laws in an anarchist society
  2. do you think the laws would be enforced in any way

is the answer is yes to both then there can be certain authorities on certain issues in an anarchist society. if the answer is no to either of those questions you either think it's lawless (no for Q1) or effectively lawless (no for Q2). tell me which part of this is a strawman.

[–] NoMadMan 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

In an enlightened society, each man or woman would govern himself or herself.

[–] pyre 1 points 1 month ago

yeah but there's no such society. checks and balances must be external or they don't exist.

[–] FlyingSquid -5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I've corrected you more than once and you keep putting words in my mouth and trying to talk about something I wasn't talking about. I'm not interested. And I'm done.

[–] pyre 3 points 1 month ago

sounds like you're just avoiding

[–] NoMadMan 1 points 1 month ago

That's lame AF.

[–] NoMadMan 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And from what I've seen in my lifetime and in the history of the world it's almost unavoidable.

[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Anarchism is unavoidable? Where are you seeing that? Because I'm seeing the world spinning into an ultracapitalist death-spiral which will end with the deaths of billions of people.