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[–] LordWiggle 15 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Who uses torrents when there is usenet, sonarr and radarr.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Why pay for usenet access when my ISP gives me the same upload as I have download and I'm not using it for anything else?

[–] LordWiggle 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Because paying for usenet means paying for privacy rights. Next to that, law enforcements are actively hunting uploaders, not downloaders. Usenet is much faster. Constant uploading is less energy efficient as it requires more pc power (especially when uploading loads of data) so it costs you more power, slows your pc, keeps your hard drives actively running which wears them down (as I imagine you don't have 32TB in SSD). With torrents you need to keep them uploading to get ratio on the closed community sites, so it takes up much more drive capacity. On open sites you get loads of viruses and other junk. I use my upload speed for friends to stream the content from my NAS instead. I got free vpn with my usenet account, for the price of a vpn account so I pay as much as you downloading torrents, if not less, assuming you're smart enough to have a paid vpn subscription. And this vpn is on top of SSL for extra privacy.

Usenet is better in so many ways.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I don’t want to get in the way of your argument re. Usenet, but spinning hard drives will last longer if they stay on. Starting and stopping the spindle motor will impart the greatest wear. As long as you have the thermals managed, a spinning disk is a happy disk.

[–] LordWiggle 1 points 3 months ago

Yeah fair enough, but that's why they run idle instead of off when not in use, right? At least my NAS optimizes the lifespan of my drives while at the same time preserves power by keeping them running idle when not in use AFAIK. As soon as I access data I hear the drives spinning harder. My pc runs on SSD's as it is off during the night and downloading to SSD storage means rewriting bits all the time which wears SSD storage down, unlike with HDD's. So my NAS runs sonarr and radarr and automatically downloads everything by itself, directly to HDD's. But those HDD's are idle when I'm not downloading, because I'm not uploading because I don't use torrents.

But please correct me if I'm wrong. I'd love to improve my setup and the life span of my drives.

[–] barsquid 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Someone correct me if I am wrong, but downloading is not actionable for the studios. Only distribution is. If you only ever download there is nothing they can do.

[–] Couldbealeotard 3 points 3 months ago

I think there's no hard rules. I think in Australia, with the Dallas Buyers Club fiasco, the judge said a fair compensation for pirating a copy of the film was the price of the DVD, but because the studio were trying to sue a single individual for millions they threw the case out.

As far as know there is no precedent for piracy punishments on individuals. The best they can do is ask your ISP to send you a strongly worded letter.

[–] LordWiggle 1 points 3 months ago

Both downloading and uploading is illegal in most places, even downloading became illegal here in the Netherlands a few years ago. But searching for someone downloading a movie is dumb, you would want to catch the uploader so there won't be anything to download anymore. The Dutch company Brein actively searches for uploaders and fines them on contract from creators, labels and studios. They do this together with the Dutch police and police from other nationalities. They don't care if you have ip TV, they do care if you host ip TV. They don't care if you download, they do care if you upload. With torrents you also upload, so they want to fine you if able. Due to privacy laws in The Netherlands this isn't possible yet, but in Germany it's a standard practice as ISP's are forces to share user information.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Sonarr and radarr works just as well with torrents.

[–] PriorityMotif -1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

There's just very few public trackers that work anymore.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

I seem to have more than a handful that still work without issues. I only need my private trackers to fins old or special things. Anything recently released is readily available and sonarr/radarr finds it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] PriorityMotif 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Unless you're on your neighbor's WiFi

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

im lazy and don't wanna pay for usenet, torrents are great

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Seriously, private trackers work great, are free, and are simpler to use.

[–] Clent 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Usenet is the way but I've never witnessed someone who torrents see the light in a penny comment thread. Few people truly understand opsec and how to quantify their own risk surface, but those who do will gravitate towards Usenet.

Speed is also a factor. Casuals don't understand what it is to grab a release before a torrent has found the first seeder.

[–] LordWiggle 2 points 3 months ago

Many don't know about usenet. When you only download using torrents and don't know anything else, you might look into it after reading something about it here. It's how I found sonarr and radarr, by reading about it on reddit.

About the speed: Oh, that's such a difference. I download with roughly 100MB/s constantly, which is the max write speed of my drives (1000mb/s connection). I've never reached anything like that with torrents.

New movie? Sure. Let's download the 46GB version. 10min later and it's downloaded, extracted, renamed, put in the right folder, added to Kodi ready to watch, including subtitles.

To me usenet is a no-brainer.