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[–] latenightnoir 31 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (18 children)

Y'know, I had a moment of reflection while reading some of the impressions people had about Space Marine 2. Found one specifically praising it because "it has no wokeness."

I don't get it... I mean, this setting is clearly a dystopian sci-fi horror where pretty much everyone is either an asshole, or cannon fodder, right? What the hell does it matter what gender said characters identify as? Why would it matter if we had all types of Space Marines (yeah, yeah, lore, yadda-yadda, but c'mon...the Rubicon Primaris itself contradicts a whole lotta lore... it's 40k, its lore is as stable as melted cheese), or trans characters, or agender, or anything else?

It's one of those situations when one realises they like the same thing a lot of very unpleasant people like. And even though the reasons for liking said thing are diametrical opposites, it still leaves one with that sort of... icky feeling... Speaking personally, I almost feel guilty for loving 40k when seeing how a lot of assholes genuinely simp for Big E's Genocidal Utopia...

[–] inb4_FoundTheVegan 28 points 6 days ago (8 children)

"it has no wokeness."

These sort of opinions should just be entirely ignored. They are from unserious people either celebrating or raging at imaginary non-problems. "Woke" in it's modern usage by right leaning culture war dorks is entirely undefined, from including PoC to acknowledging queer people exist.

So, I feel you on getting the ick from sharing the same space as these bigots, but don't let them take away hobbies from you because of their narrow minded hate.

[–] latenightnoir 12 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Thank you for the reality check, you're entirely correct! And, to be fair, the "other end" of the fanbase have so far been some of the most genuinely friendly people, simply excited to share the gloom and doom of 40k with anyone who's interested!