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Aside from racism. I mean economically/socially, what issues does too much immigration cause?

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[–] taiyang 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Historically, US actually was quite welcoming of immigration, including from Mexico. It tends to ebb and flow. I was taught by an economist that typically you open the flood gates when you want the labor, while restricting it when you don't. To him, labor works just like goods in supply/demand curves. Flooding a market can drive down value of labor, etc., which can be bad for local workers. Obviously it's a little more complex, but that's the jist.

The trouble is, with globalization, one must wonder if that S/D curve is still valid. I imagine it is in some sectors, but in others, those jobs have been outsourced. If this is a bigger strain on demand, then it's better to keep immigration on lock. That would at least help explain why it's so hostile currently, but I'm just thinking out loud. I don't necessarily agree with the economist approach.

[–] Cryophilia 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Flooding a market can drive down value of labor, etc., which can be bad for local workers.

That makes sense, but in the long run/bigger picture, having a bigger employable workforce results in more consumers, which means a growing economy.

I'm not well versed enough in macroeconomics to explain how to promote the economy without lowering wages, but surely it can be done. "They're taking our jobs" just sounds way too reductive.

[–] taiyang 1 points 3 months ago

It actually has more to do with training and education. In developed nations, people get more education and the result is a larger void in the low skill labor force who are employed by them. Ironically, more education results in lower wages for white collar work and higher wages for blue collar work, haha. Unfortunately we rarely talk about education, economics and immigration in the same breath, so it's rarely addressed in politics.

Automation also adds a wrinkle, as low skill labor has been automated with technology. It's credited as one of the major contributions to the wage gap, as efficiency is a boon to the owning class, not the working class. But I digress...