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Bodycam shows police dragging NFL star Tyreek Hill from car before season opener
(www.theguardian.com)
this post was submitted on 10 Sep 2024
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He was compliant literally the second they opened his unlocked door. Why do they need to dogpile him?
No he wasn't.
We can see the video. The literal second they open his unlocked door he tells them he's getting out. They drag him out anyways. Then they dog pile him and he lets them do whatever they want to him. After he's cuffed they control him with one officer and nothing more severe than a tap on his shoulder.
They absolutely escalated the situation beyond where it needed to be.
Youre right. You can see the video. He's told four or five times to get out of the car before it was opened by the cop. Then Hill says he's getting out, but doesn't actually move to get out. Until he's quasi pulled out, but the cops didn't give a whole lot of time on that part. Saying you're going to do something, but not actually doing it is something I even run into a lot as an emt. We just never escalate the situation with any force unless there isn't another option and the person is in a situation where they legally have to go to the hospital. Cops are usually much less patient, but they deal with a different portion of the public a lot of times.
Bottom line is that the cops may have been assholes or not, but Hill wasn't doing anything to try and keep the stop calm or civil. He was being a dick. Just like he's been a dick all his life, right back to punching and choking his pregnant girlfriend back in college and all the way on up. Then having the gull to tell some Mexican cops that they pulled him over because he was black and in a nice car, like playing the race card is supposed to work against a hispanic dude.
You're getting downvoted because we have eyes and can see your lies.
Lol. Where is my lie? Specifically.
I wanna see this.