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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

0f is pretty fucking cold outside, your nose hairs start to freeze in this weather. It's genuinely uncomfortable and you can die pretty easily if you aren't prepared for it. 100f is similar, anything over 100f and you start to get into straight heat exhaustion and potential heat stroke region of danger. it's really not that bad? Sure if you're like, standing outside doing nothing in the shade, you'll be fine, but do some labor and you might meet the fabled heat exhaustion fairy.

Obviously, when you convert it to celsius, it seems really fucking weird, That's pretty normal for conversions though. Like just to be clear, if you round these numbers, they make more sense. -20 c and "damn it's really cold out" you round up to 40c and "damn it's really hot out"

also im not really sure what you're trying to say, but 0f isn't like, going to kill you kill you, it's not pleasant, but in the right attire you'll be fine. -20 f and you start getting closer, -40f and you really start having to think about it. Are you aussie or something? This scale seems really shifted up to me. "nuts sticking weather" is like 80f and humid here.

[–] overcast5348 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm saying that 0F is waaaaaaay more dangerous than 100F so the logic of those particular temperatures being the 0-100 ends of the scale can't be explained by how dangerous they each are.

Almost everyone would be fine staying outside for 30 minutes at 100F without no external help (shade, cool drinks etc). Almost nobody would be fine after staying outside at 0F without external help (parka, thermals etc).

To me, with absolutely no data, it feels lie:

0F is as dangerous as 140F (you're long dead if you're outside in both cases)
100F is as dangerous as 40F (mildly uncomfortable but safe for a while)

So calling 0F and 100F both "really dangerous" and using that to justify them being the respective points of 0 and 100 disingenuous. Like, use Fahrenheit if that's what you're used to - I use it too because that's what I'm used to. But I don't explain the insane system with "it's because the two ends are reallllly dangerous."

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

I’m saying that 0F is waaaaaaay more dangerous than 100F so the logic of those particular temperatures being the 0-100 ends of the scale can’t be explained by how dangerous they each are.

idk about that though, i mean maybe if you go outside completely naked, sure. But idk who would be doing that. I've regularly been outside in close to 0f temperature in lighter clothing, it's not pleasant, but im not going to freeze to death within twenty minutes. Plus you can also do physical activity, and as long as you regulate sweat, you'll be fine. Although sweat can be particularly dangerous in colder weather.

Almost everyone would be fine staying outside for 30 minutes at 100F without no external help (shade, cool drinks etc). Almost nobody would be fine after staying outside at 0F without external help (parka, thermals etc).

i think that's unreasonable though, you just wouldn't be going outside at all in those clothes, in the same way that you wouldn't go outside in 100f weather in a full winter get up. You would literally die.

140f as a relative measure is wild to me, in 140f if you're outside without an air conditioned vehicle (death valley) and you don't have water you will die within about a day. 100-130f is considered "extreme heat" in death valley, which has a website that you can pull up for some relevant information. Once your body is over about 110f internal temperature, you're fucking dead. Unless you have a way to either redirect sunlight from hitting you, and water to replenish that lost from sweat, you die really quickly.

0f isn't considered "extreme cold" that would be something like -40c (or f, they're the same) where basically everything starts to freeze, and i've seen people do overnight camping in that weather. It's perfectly doable, obviously not without gear, but who isn't bringing gear? Hell you can bring a space blanket with you, with the right gear you can easily exist in 0f weather for a prolonged period.

I'm not sure where you're quoting the "really dangerous" from because i just said both of them are "really hot/cold"

But I don’t explain the insane system with “it’s because the two ends are reallllly dangerous.”

did i say this anywhere??? I feel like i'm schizophrenic.