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Two loggers have been killed by bow and arrow after allegedly encroaching the land of the uncontacted Mashco Piro Indigenous tribe deep in Peru’s Amazon, according to a rights group.

The group, known as FENAMAD, defends the rights of Peru’s Indigenous peoples. It says tensions between loggers and Indigenous tribes are on the rise and more government protective action is needed.

Two other loggers in the attack were missing and another was injured, FENAMAD said, and rescue efforts were underway.

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I’m not gonna say they deserved it. But they fucked up bad. (I’m inclined to think the people who really deserve it is the lobbyists and logging company owners and not the contracted workers).

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Anyone “logging” the rainforest deserves to immediately contribute to the nitrogen cycle. No questions asked.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

You see, I get this is the internet and easy emotional answers like “kill them” are the ones most posted.

But firstly, I think we should have a decently high bar for “deserve to die”. Secondly, it’s not like rich well educated people are loggers.

Oftentimes these people have few or no other choices to support their families. Are unaware or not told of native tribes by their bosses. And mostly, haven’t had the privilege to be educated about the importance of the rainforest, ecological damage etc.

It’s easy to sit in our middle class first world bubble and imagine they had the same opportunities and cultural capital as us, but they likely didn’t.

(not saying you are middle class or in a first world country, but given you are on lemmy and know what the nitrogen cycle is, it’s statistically likely).

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago

Well said

(not saying you are middle class or in a first world country, but given you are on lemmy and know what the nitrogen cycle is, it’s statistically likely).

And even cracking smiles with that :)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

A lot of these loggers are people who's tribes were destroyed not too long ago.

[–] JustZ 4 points 2 months ago

But I've already got out my pitchfork.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

It’s like that gif of an orangutan fighting the bulldozer. I’m not sure why you think it’s an “emotional” response to defend yourself from the people literally trying to end all sentient life on this planet. It’s folks like you who’re pusillanimously marching our collective species into the afterlife.

Also, btw, all normative decisions, “logical” and otherwise, are fundamentally “emotional.” You’ve no other mechanism for evaluative judgement, you dumb moralizing motherfucker.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

By saying we shouldn’t murder loggers I’m killing the planet? I’m all for blocking them, I even have participated in treehouse protests myself. Find someone else to project onto.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yes, your bizarre and irrational distaste for self defense is killing the planet. Thanks for understanding.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Well I certainly would not like to live in your dream community. Little empathy, and lots of killing. Good day.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

You want me to have empathy for the people killing me? Your world is already replete with violence. I guess it just doesn’t count until it’s directed towards you.