this post was submitted on 03 Sep 2024
1583 points (97.8% liked)

Technology

60058 readers
2887 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.


Our Rules


  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related content.
  3. Be excellent to each another!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed

Approved Bots


founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] General_Effort 24 points 3 months ago (2 children)

In a way this thread is heart-warming. There are so many different people here - liberals, socialists, anarchists, communists, progressives, ... - and yet they can all agree on 1 fundamental ethical principle: The absolute sanctity of intellectual property.

[–] captainlezbian 21 points 3 months ago (1 children)

More of “you don’t get to profit off violating it and act like you’re better than a dude selling burned DVDs”

[–] General_Effort 0 points 3 months ago

Now, now, let's not get hung upon our differences. We all took different journeys to get here. The important thing is that we all agree now that property owners are entitled to a share of the money that other people make with their labor. Obviously only intellectual property owners. I'm sure those filthy landlords are still parasites. It's not like apartments can be copied at almost 0 cost.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Depending on how important these large language models end up being to society, I'd rather everyone be able to freely use copyrighted works to train them, rather than reserve their use solely for the corporations rich enough to pay for the licensing or lucky enough to already have the rights to a trove of source material

OpenAI losing this battle is how we ensure that the only people that can legally train these things are the Microsofts, Googles, and the Adobes of the world so, bizarrely, as much as I think OpenAI has turned into greedy corpo scum, I feel compelled to side with them here

[–] General_Effort 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

the corporations rich enough to pay for the licensing or lucky enough to already have the rights to a trove of source material

Oh, don't worry about them. Start-ups can get VC funding to pay for the licenses. Eventually we all pay. The likes of Sam Altman can get rich. The venture capitalists can get rich. All while the heirs of the NYT or Getty empires get richer still. Everyone will be rich. Except us, of course. It's very ethical. We all want ethical AI and that means capitalist AI.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

The way I see it, creatives lose no matter what here, so they can either lose and only the corpos benefit, or they can lose and everyone benefits