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[–] Ibaudia 29 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

For those saying it isn't that bad of a show, as a Tolkien dork myself I just can't stomach anything that doesn't feel like it adheres to the canon of the original story. The show just takes too many creative liberties for my liking. Galadriel's character is the worst example of that, I just don't see that as her at allllll.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Galadriel’s character is the worst example of that, I just don’t see that as her at allllll.

That's probably the main critic among fans. It's okay to have this kind of characters, just don't call her Galadriel

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I think there is a hollywood trap right now, investors want safe returns, so big franchise names have been thought to be the safest return you can invest in.

A creative wants to make a story they can call their own.

Rock meets Hard Place, so the creatives - in order to get funding to create - co-opt existing franchises in their pitch, and if it gets accepted, they want to tear down the previous lore so they can make it their own.

So we end up in a loop where franchisees often get abused in the new creative works.

Like the Joker movie gamespot

When he pitched the idea for Joker to Warner Bros., the studio went back and forth. "And I go, 'We're gonna sneak a real movie in under the guise of [a comic book movie],'" the director continued. That apparently did the trick.

Of course, that's a controversial statement, as it implies that comic book and superhero movies aren't what Phillips considers "real movies." The director took a moment during his story to clarify: "I don't mean that like disparagingly to comic book movies--those are real movies," he said. But he went on to double down a moment later.

"All of a sudden kids who wouldn't care or go to this movie if it was called 'Arthur' are going to go sit in this movie and be exposed to something entirely different than Avengers: Endgame," he continued. "I love those movies. [Robert Downey Jr.] is my boy. But they just watched a real movie, in a way."

[–] niktemadur 5 points 3 weeks ago

Damn, talk about lazily arrogant writers. They must know they're going to piss off the fanbase, "I've got a new take on Tolkien that's BETTER than Tolkien!" and this is what happens when the corporate suits who greenlight this sort of misguided "hot politically correct take" don't care ANYTHING about Middle Earth, all they see are mirages of $$$ and the fidgety anxiety of budgets and deadlines.

For a hot minute there, I thought this current generation of writers and directors who were given this new format of high-budget 8-12 episode series, were going to make the best use of this golden opportunity.
Instead we get crap like Goyer inserting his brain farts and artificialities all over "Foundation" until the spirit of Isaac Asimov is no longer felt on the screen, at all.

[–] samus12345 6 points 3 weeks ago

I'm okay with it shitting on the lore if it's good, but it's not so much.

[–] Angry_Autist 0 points 3 weeks ago

I just treat it as drunk written fanfic and its fine