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Any good Telegram alternative? (lemm.ee)

submitted 2 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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I tried SimpleX but the VPN kill switch on my phone prevents syncing with my computer.

I use telegram primarily as a note taking app with sync features.

Occasionally I send files to friends, so having easy set up for tech illiterate would be great.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

@TheDorkfromYork

YMMV, but my minimum requirements were:

Federated just like lemmy or mastodon or email, so I can choose a server or even selfhost.
First class clients for Linux available, not only Android/iOS, no Electron bloatware.
No phone number involved.

That rules out Signal, Whatsapp and some more. Matrix fits. However I prefer #Jabber a.k.a. #XMPP. Matter of taste, I guess 🤷

PS: "Note to yourself", incl. file upload, is supported by all servers and most clients, AFAIK.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

@debacle @TheDorkfromYork I'm still waiting for #gajim 1.9 to be available under #archlinux … (I don't want to install the flatpak). Yes #xmpp is the way and #quicksy help me convert some people.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Snikket seems nice as well.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Jabber and XMPP aren't really alternatives as they are just protocols. They don't have a stable feature set and aren't necessarily encrypted by default.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

@possiblylinux127

The #Jabber feature sets are defined in the compliance suite, e.g. here:

"XEP-0479: #XMPP Compliance Suites 2023"

https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0479.html#im

Many Jabber clients do end-to-end encryption by default. I would not care too much in the age of #surveillance directly at the source, i.e. on the device 🤷

If you want an even more coherent feature set and also be sure, all your clients encrypt by default, your best bet is #Snikket by @snikket_im. Highly recommended!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

The by default is the problem