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Culture shock (lemmy.world)

submitted 2 months ago by The_Picard_Maneuver to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I mean its nothing but a marketing spin all chickens suffer harshly in the egg industry. Even a true CCP devotee wouldn't be surprised and would probably expect meaningless marketing differences to get a leg up on competition.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

sure, but at least where i am, free-range chickens have a minimum of 1 sq. m. of space, which is 0.9 sq. m. more than otherwise

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago

Unless you're a male chicken, then your range is whatever the dimensions of the Live Rooster Masher is.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I can't talk for the US, but organic labels usually have pretty strict requirements. Enforcement is often lacking though, but it is definitely not just a marketing spin and guaranteed suffering.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 months ago (2 children)

AFAIK, "Organic" usually just restricts what the chicken has been eating/injected with, not it's living conditions.

[–] f314 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

In the US, maybe. In Europe there are many restrictions regarding living conditions as well, meaning “organic” is usually the best option if you prioritize animal welfare.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

... and even then I find them pretty bad in quality compared to fresh eggs from the nearby farmer, I must say, from my own experience.

[–] f314 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I mean, that’s pretty hard to compete with 😅

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

yeah, they're pretty great. sadly i haven't had a good egg in a long time (farmer quit), so I've stopped eating them.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

It very much does here in Europe & Germany. But like I said, I can't speak on the US in that regard. Usually the US is much worse when it comes to regulations though.

[–] potpotato 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Certified humane (pdf): https://certifiedhumane.org/wp-content/uploads/Standard_LayingHens-2023.pdf

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

E 18: Sufficient freedom of movement.

a. All hens must have sufficient freedom of movement to be able, without difficulty, to stand normally, turn around, and stretch their legs and wings.

b. They must also have sufficient space to be able to perch or sit quietly without repeated disturbance to other birds.

That's, without meaning to sound cute, paltry.

[–] potpotato 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Ah, I should have specified the pasture-raised standards:

R 1: Pasture area

a. Must consist mainly of living vegetation. Coarse grit must be available to aid digestion of vegetation.

c. The minimum outdoor space requirement is 2.5 acres (1 hectare)/1000 birds (~109SF).

g. Birds must be outdoors 12 months per year, every day for a minimum of 6 hours per day. In an emergency, the hens may be confined in fixed or mobile housing 24 hours per day for no more than 14 consecutive days.

Free-range are only required to have 2SF and don't have a mandatory outside time.