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[–] [email protected] 85 points 1 month ago (3 children)

the problem is police are not held accountable for their ignorance of the laws they are hired to enforce.

they need to be prosecuted for their ignorance. dont like it? dont be a police officer.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I don’t know if this is ignorance, it could just be a lie so they don’t have to face more scrutiny.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 month ago (1 children)

ive worked in healthcare, where even some of the lower roles require periodic (regulation required) training. ignorance is no excuse in healthcare.

ive also worked in police departments where ignorance is just a tool in their box, because they are not actually required to know anything.

best case, police should have a 4 year degree in law enforcement to even be considered to hold a human-killing device.

worst case; police should be periodically challenged on their knowledge of the law, just like every other role with elevated responsibility.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don’t disagree, but considering how averse the police are to being filmed, I’m willing to bet they just don’t want to be filmed, despite their ignorance on the law.

In fact, I think a cop saying things like “It’s illegal to film cops” or “It’s illegal to film an ongoing arrest” or “It’s illegal to film a crime scene” cannot be viewed through the lens of ignorance. If you know little about the law you might misinterpret the law, or not know specific laws exist, or not know legal processes. But they aren’t “not knowing” the law, they are inventing a new law that doesn’t exist. They are inventing a new law that benefits them, and then using their authority, perceived knowledge of the law, and threat of force and violence to get their way.

If anything, cops hate accountability. And cameras are good at holding them accountable. And even if what they are doing is legal (such as clearing an unhoused camp), the public outcry will not be super pleasant for them. I remember the anger cops had when my state made them wear body cams, and I remember early scandals about cops disabling the cameras before doing horrible shit.

[–] mojofrododojo 2 points 1 month ago

I’m willing to bet they just don’t want to be filmed, despite their ignorance on the law.

THEY DON'T WANT EVIDENCE OF THEIR CRIMES.

It's really that simple.

[–] bitjunkie 5 points 1 month ago

Feigned ignorance still counts

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Molotovs through the station windows are an acceptable substitute.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 month ago

I mean, technically it is a crime scene after scotus cleared the way to make existence a crime. That doesn’t make it right.

Copypasta from a first-level reply because it's relevant here:

I mean, technically it is a crime scene after scotus cleared the way to make existence a crime. That doesn’t make it right.