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Effectiveness of hi-vis in car traffic (slrpnk.net)

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[+] givesomefucks -44 points 5 months ago (26 children)

Yeah, but do you actually wear high vis?

Vest and helmet cover?

Or are you one of those people that say noise is the only indicator completely disregarding the advances in car sound proofing that only makes loud bikes an annoyance to pedestrians?

Did you know by mile driven, motorcycles kill more pedestrians than cars or trucks?

Compared with cars, the RR of killing a pedestrian per vehicle mile was 7.97 (95% CI 6.33 to 10.04) for buses; 1.93 (95% CI 1.30 to 2.86) for motorcycles; 1.45 (95% CI 1.37 to 1.55) for light trucks, and 0.96 (95% CI 0.79 to 1.18) for heavy trucks. Compared with cars, buses were 11.85 times (95% CI 6.07 to 23.12) and motorcycles were 3.77 times (95% CI 1.40 to 10.20) more likely per mile to kill children 0–14 years old. Buses were 16.70 times (95% CI 7.30 to 38.19) more likely to kill adults age 85 or older than were cars. The risk of killing a pedestrian per vehicle mile traveled in an urban area was 1.57 times (95% CI 1.47 to 1.67) the risk in a rural area.

https://injuryprevention.bmj.com/content/11/4/232

Literally 3.77x more likely to kill a child per mile than a car, and you're focusing on peeping in windows as you zip by?

So can you please stop trying to see how many car drivers are on the phone while you ride one of the most dangerous vehicles possible for you and people minding their own business walking around?

Your hobby isn't more important than people's lives, even if it makes you feel better about other shortcomings you may be dealing with and can't change.

[–] calamitycastle 0 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Hey I think you missed this extremely important part of your quoted source:

Results: Passenger cars and light trucks (vans, pickups, and sport utility vehicles) accounted for 46.1% and 39.1%, respectively, of the 4875 deaths, with the remainder split among motorcycles, buses, and heavy trucks.

[–] The_v 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

Hey I think you have never taken a statistics or logical reasoning course.

Yes in total number cars and light trucks kill the most pedestrians. That's not what is being discussed.

Per mile driven, motorcycles are more than 4x more likely to kill a pedestrian. If motorcycles were used the same amount as cars and light trucks, the total number of deaths per year from them would be almost 20,000 people