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Coffee and ADHD (discuss.tchncs.de)

submitted 3 months ago by [email protected] to c/adhd

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First off: I am still undiagnosed. I've followed the ADHD topic for more than a year now since I seem to match a whole lot of symptoms and behavior patterns. An official diagnosis will most probably still take another year. I live in Germany.

One thing that got me wondering was caffeine. As I've heard, drinking coffee will make ADHD folks not feel any more awake, maybe even a little tired.

While it doesn't make me feel awake as well, I very vividly remember my first coffee a long time ago that caused a massive outburst of productivity when all of the time I was known for being 'lazy' and distracted. However the effect quickly diminished with each subsequent coffee over the next year.

Isn't this a contradiction though? If I actually had ADHD, why did coffee have this awakening effect on me back then?

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[–] Mighty 9 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Hey, Just to let you know: I'm also in Germany and it doesn't need to take a year to get diagnosed. Check your surroundings for neurologists that do ADHD in adults.

Also to your question: it's a spectrum and no hard and fast rules what your brain does. Mine doesn't like caffeine as well, no effects, but with meds, I get massive heart rate and anxiety.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I have checked, and there's really only one that specializes in adult ADHD. Already called them but I have to wait until the waiting list for 2025 opens in december.

I got an immediate appointment through 116 117, that was the worst therapist I've ever had the pleasure to meet. Brushed off ADHD as a "Modediagnose" (not sure how to translate this, negatively connotated trending diagnosis?) and we thankfully never talked about any further appointments

[–] Mighty 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

ADHS ist nichts für einen Therapeuten. Ich bin zu einer Neurologin gegangen. Im Prinzip waren das drei Sitzungen oder so bis zur Diagnose, also braucht man nicht unbedingt groß Termine. Der Test hat mich 75€ gekostet. Danach musst du "nur" noch Medikamente bekommen

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Danke für den Hinweis, das war mir gar nicht bewusst!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

i ended up paying for it. 650 euros. still had to find a therapist though. met a bunch of a holes. its not worth telling what was happening, it was the usual horrorstories.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Sounds like 'modediagnose' could be translated as "fad diagnosis" maybe?

It's a problem with health providers here too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

versuch wasser mit salz, hört sich bekloppt an, aber funktioniert jedes mal, wenn ich doch mal herzrasen oder herzklopfen habe. also glas wasser, salz rein, und trinken. muss so salzig sein daß du es nornalerweise nicht trinken würdest, aber nicht so, daß du reihern mußt.

grund ist: erhöhung der basalen stoffwechsel rate geht so schnell daß der körper nicht folgen kann, und du hattest zu wenig salz im system daß der körper sich einregeln kann. salz und magnesium und viele andere dinge haben wesentlich mit herzschlag zu tun, extrem viel.

zuviel salz pisst du aus, also mach dir keine sorgen.

[–] Mighty 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Ne. Ich habe einfach aufgehört Kaffee mit Koffein zu trinken. Ist kein großer Verzicht für mich.

Aber vielen Dank für die Hinweise

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

ich bin gerade am aufhören, habe zum glück die kopfschmerzphase überwunden. hattes du eine erschöpfungsphase, nach dem du aufgehört hattest?

[–] Mighty 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Ne gar nicht. Ich war nie ein großer Kaffeetrinker. Es war bei mir aber das Antidepressiva, nicht das Amphetamin, dass die Reaktion ausgelöst hatte.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

ah, das nützt salz eh nicht soviel, das es eine substanzwechselwirkung ist - sobald stimulanzien und antidepressiva aufeinandertreffen, wird es chaotisch.