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[–] TropicalDingdong -4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

But Ozma, he supports the Democrat in the race. Don't you understand, he's with us™? And if we identify with him on our team, that means he's above criticism and that you are actually a closeted Trump supporter for setting the expectation that the DNC shouldn't be platforming vile scum and need to do better.

Don't you understand Ozma!!

mandatory /s

also inb4 the apologists (jk of fucking course I'm not).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Interesting. Am I one of the apologists who's saying he's above criticism?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 weeks ago

To quote you above:

it’s some bullshit; they’re taking a good guy and trying to make him into a bad guy, so that you’ll let the actual bad guys come to power, and derail the effort to continue reforming the system and making it better.

Telling people to shut up and vote democrat is how we got here. Instead you should be telling the democrats they don't have a shot in hell if they keep trying to triangulate themselves one inch left of republicans and telling us "Yes you're absolutely right he's a piece of shit and 'fund the police more than ever' is a losing message, write your reps if you live in a blue state".

You can't shame 100 million people into voting for a party that opposes every policy you support in practice and 90% of your policies in messaging.

The only way the democrats have a shot in hell is if they a. actually support progressive policy and b. demonstrate that they will do anything in their power to get it passed, the same way Republicans do but for bad things.

Your criticism shouldn't be directed at the masses for pointing out that trying to appeal to republicans with tough on crime rhetoric and policy is awful, it should be directed at the people who have the power to change that rhetoric and policy.