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Absolutely came here to say this. There are no ethical, innocent, or good billionaires. None. You cannot make that much money without disregarding or hurting people.
We need to stop blocking for and idolizing these fucks.
Billionaire evil is a sliding scale from normal rich guy evil to comic book villain evil. He’s less bad than his peers, even if the stuff he does (like the cost plus drugs thing) are maybe just for PR.
We eat him later than others. But we do eat him.
Saying eat the rich will do nothing but self sabotage whatever cause youre endorsing
Shit guys, the tone police are here! Scatter!
Someone sounds ~~salty~~ tasty...
People can agree with specific things he says without idolizing him.
Costco is a company that is famous both for how it treats its customers, and how it treats its employees. Its founder, who was its CEO until a few years ago, is a billionaire.
The creator of Minecraft sold the explosively-popular game he created to Microsoft, for $2 billion, making him a billionaire.
Your black and white thinking is as out of place as black and white TV is. The nuance-allergic are disgusting.
And you thinking that these entities are innocent just because they started out doing a thing is myopic. You seem to be the one unable to see nuance. Truly. Or you misunderstand its meaning, because Costco is definitely not innocent.
I live near the headquarters. They're an awful employer and exploit their staff, prevent upward movement of talented folk. My close friend is a highly talented developer for them and has been passed up for raises and promotions multiple times for less talented people in the org. Furthermore, he felt his race played into these decisions.
I can't understand for one moment why people block for or make excuses for billionaires. You're never gonna get anything from it. Everyone on this side of the divide is on the same team in that match up.
https://news.bloomberglaw.com/litigation/judge-tosses-costco-warehouse-workers-hostile-environment-suit
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/20/dining/costco.html
https://medium.com/chronic-support-group/costcos-crackdown-on-memberships-hurts-our-population-the-most-70f04f0d4ba2
Yeah, I'm not the one who declared that every single person who has more than X wealth is evil, lmao.
Anyone can cherry-pick a few incidents here and there, any business large enough will have them, but aggregate data is more honest:
Clearly their workers are MUCH happier there than just about anywhere else in the same industry.
That's not what nuance means. I'm done with this. You're choosing to misunderstand or just cannot do so.
I'll pretend I'm surprised you avoided addressing that single digit turnover rate, lol.
You're choosing to generalize people based on their net worth, and choosing to cherry pick data points to support a narrative about Costco easily debunked by looking at aggregate data.
Keep blocking for them, pal. I'm sure you'll get your billions one day.
/ignored.
You're projecting your unwillingness to defend what doesn't confirm your biases. Some of us care about what's accurate more than what props up a pet narrative.
All I did was state a fact that you can't deal with. That's the bottom line. Cope and seethe.
Taylor Swift
You think she's ethical, innocent, or good? Yikes. She works hard to present a non-offensive to either side persona, that doesn't make her ethical, innocent, or good.
Sounds like you think all people are terrible. What a sad way to go through life. I feel sorry for you
Sounds like you're in denial and you're happy to keep it that way.
Wow a random blogger has an opinion? You automatically win the argument, congrats.
There was more than one link in my comment. Also, that's just a sampling of the search results; you're sure to find more compelling stuff out there if you put more effort into looking than I did.
#1 and #3 are random blogs. #2 is a student publication so barely one notch above "random blogger", but anyway if the best criticism one can levy at Swift is her use of a private plane, she must be more ethical than I thought. Can you imagine the clusterfuck if she traveled commercial? Airports are already a disaster as it is, without being bottlenecked by paparazzi and screeching elder millennial wine moms. She's doing us all a public service by avoiding that situation.
Of course the best criticism you see is her use of a private plane, you've summarily discounted everything else as "random blogs" and don't seem to be bothered by that level of wealth being inherently and inevitably unethical lol
I've already spent more time in this thread than I care for, you're clearly motivated against changing your mind, but you're welcome to actually look into her in any detail yourself if you want to learn something.
Why are you blocking for billionaires? Ask yourself this along with asking yourself how it helps you to do so. Swift is no different to Bezos or Cuban. They just have different PR.
Afaik... Swift is a musician first and foremost. She might be the wealthiest musician on the planet - but i find it hard to equate the scale of her "evildoings" to people like Bezos or the average oil company.
Welcome to Lemmy. You should know there is ackshually zero nuance in anything in the world - everything is either 100% good or 100% bad.
I will always fight this "think about the poor airports!" bullshit. There are hundreds and thousands of famous people that fly without causing the apocalypse. You should be asking yourself why are people being manipulated and their emotions extorted that they have to swoon over Swift. This shit doesn't come out of a bubble, it's a planned hype-up to produce sales. Any sane person seeing people actually lose their shit over their presence should be concerned for the impact they're causing. None of this is sane or normal human behavior, idol worship is dangerous and causes extremism (link). It's funny that celebrities are "so connected" with their fans through social media but instead you get a fancy poster that's talking directly to you! Not a real human being who can be a piece of shit at times like the rest of us, not allowed to see the actual person behind the veil.
I'm not sure what it was about my post that led you to believe I condone that behaviour. I'm not saying it's a good thing, but it is a thing.
At what point does someone stop being a victim of their "social status" and become responsible for their actions? Billions in profit? Polluting thousands of times over a normal citizen? "She's doing us a public service", is this celebrity boot licking?
You're suggesting it's Swift's fault that grown-ass adults are incapable of not going feral in her presence?
Oh, no! She's not perfect! Throw her in the volcano!
You cant say shes a “good” billionaire and then dismiss it as everyone is imperfect.
Look i like swift and i believe its possible for there to be a “good” billionaire but swift is definitely not it
Yep as expected you're just trolling. What a sad way to go through life. I feel sorry for you
Lol I don't even think they're being a troll. I think they think they'll gain something from licking billionaire ass.
Ah, everyone who disagrees with you is a troll. Nice reductive way to simplify your meager existence