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"Do something!" Michelle Obama's big-hearted, urgent, barn-burner of a convention speech
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I'm sorry, I need to support my assertions?
Which assertions did I make?
I asked for your sources, and you just gave rhetoric back in response. I've asserted nothing, other than without you providing proof of assertions, you sound like a teenager trying to be edgy with a weak grasp of politics and world /American history.
Your claim to try and whataboutism me on asking for supporting assertions continues to support the narrative that you don't really understand the terms and topics you're throwing around. Your heart is in the right place I think, but you're coming across in a way that's damaging to your argument or point because of some simple mistakes and erroneous assumptions you're making and continuing to defend (like Obama is an oligarch, which he absolutely is not, and if you ever lived or visited a country or met a real oligarch, you would understand that. This de-legitimizes much of your argument to many people.)
Of course Obama screwed up and made mistakes with things like the supreme court position. He, wrongly, assumed Republicans would play fair and the voters would hold them accountable if they didn't.
He was brutally wrong. He addresses that issue, and others you've called out in his book and there are numerous witnesses and sources to back him up.
But do go ahead and try to demonize him, without acknowledging that pretty much every other president in modern history did much worse. That's not to excuse the mistakes he did make, but much of what you're claiming is just rhetoric.
It’s interesting to me that I keep running into some version of the following argument: Yeah, Obama kinda sucked as president, but he had a heart of gold and there have been worse, so we should celebrate him! If you keep holding these people to such low standards, you’re going to keep getting such mediocre leaders.