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It often surprises me to see people with time, money, and knowledge settling for subpar experiences that have night and day differences to me. Even at my brokest (pretty darn broke), speakers, headphones, and glasses were always worth researching and some saving up, and the difference between what I'd end up with and the average always feels like it paid off tenfold.

I've got a surprising number of friends/acquaintances who just don't seem to care, though, and I am trying to understand if they just don't experience the difference similarly or if they don't mind. I know musicians who just continue using generation 1 airpods or the headphones included with their phone, birdwatchers who don't care about their binoculars, people who don't care if they could easily make their food taste better, and more examples of people who, in my opinion, could get 50% better results/experiences by putting in 1% more thought/effort.

When I've asked some friends about it, it sounds as much like they just don't care as they don't experience the difference as starkly as I do, but I have a hard time understanding that, as it's most often an objective sensory difference. Like I experience the difference between different pairs of binoculars and speakers dramatically, and graphical analysis backs up the differences, so how could they sound/look negligibly different to others? Is it just a matter of my priorities not being others' priorities, or do they actually experience the difference between various levels of quality as smaller than I seem to? What's your take on both major and, at the high end, diminishing returns on higher quality sensory experiences?

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I absolutely do, but admit it's diminishing returns. I have a 4k OLED screen with nice tower speakers and I really enjoy my setup. The problem is once you really experience and notice high quality it's hard to go back

I absolutely agree with you on friends and family. "Ugh I hate that I have to turn it up to hear the dialog but turn it down in the fight scenes". That's because you're using the TV SPEAKERS those 1" drivers aren't going to deliver the range you need! Get something else!_

For me the true moment of truth was when I bought the OLED and my wife even agreed while watching Maverick "okay that looked amazing". Justified! Once you see it, you can't believe you ever didn't see it

[–] ThunderWhiskers 6 points 2 months ago (4 children)

You're not wrong but there is such a huge cost of entry for even a decent speaker set up.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago

Like I said though, diminishing returns. Pretty much any speakers are better than the TV speakers. Even a cheap soundbar is going to do more than the TV speakers. As the other comment said even an old system from the 90s with speakers that aren't blown will sound better. Hell my first system back in college was a craigslist find. You don't have to go full hi-fi massive $1000 system to get a better experience

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

You can find great deals on the used market. People often give this stuff away because they don't get it, and they just want it gone

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

you can usually pick up a setup better than your TV speakers for ~100 dollars from a thrift shop/used electronic store/craigslist, then upgrade incrementally as you feel necessary. the real problem IMO is that it permeates floors and wall more and takes up more space which makes it a shitty choice for apartments. Setting it up is also a PITA. I prefer headphones for almost everything., but of course that doesn't work for group stuff.

[–] Odelay42 4 points 2 months ago

You can get very good stereo speakers and a quality amp for a few hundred bucks.

The idea that you need to spend thousands is a myth. It's more about form factor than specs. Sound bars suck. Full range woofers don't.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

The problem is once you really experience and notice high quality it's hard to go back

I had this with earphones. Once I bought a better pair, going back to my old ones, it just sounded like cardboard. Don't invest in good audio equipment, even once. It will cost you for a lifetime!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The problem is once you really experience and notice high quality it’s hard to go back

I can't stress how true this is

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

It's definitely a one way street. Once you notice compression, or color banding, or here the tinni-ness of audio... you just can't not notice it anymore.