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[–] primrosepathspeedrun 17 points 2 months ago (2 children)

if I see something requires an app, no matter how good it is otherwise. the product is dead to me. I know it is, effectively, going to break within a year or two.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I have one of these, and I use it just fine without an app fwiw

[–] primrosepathspeedrun 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

you never know for sure until you try though, so if it requires an app, it's dead to me and I don't trust anything else the company makes.

if it has an API i get very wet very fast.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That’s fair, but the point I was trying to make was that I have tried and, for the one I’ve got at least, the app isn’t required. I’m not trying to defend them or anything, I just thought it was worth mentioning.

Tbh I’m kinda glad it doesn’t have an API, because I’d end up wasting a lot of time playing with it haha.

[–] primrosepathspeedrun 2 points 2 months ago

see, if it had an API, I could integrate it into an open smart home app, and it would be cool as FUCK.

[–] linearchaos 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

About two phone changes ago I never reinstalled the anova app.

It's like pressing the buttons on top of the cooker with extra steps.

[–] primrosepathspeedrun 2 points 2 months ago

yeah there are apps I want on my phone, but if anything says 'there is an app' I'm instantly averse.

even the things I do want phone apps for, I have to browse on fdroid because default options are all terrible. basic shit like file browsers and media players in commercial OS's are just, like, vile and do not function. even if I didn't care about the endoscopes they try to snake up every orifice, they are deliberately nonfunctional.

[–] TheIllustrativeMan 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I'm getting that same way.

Currently trying to chase down some automatic sun shades that don't need an app to do time-based cycles. Shouldn't be this hard, but every band wants you to use absolute garbage apps.

[–] primrosepathspeedrun 1 points 2 months ago

if its not open source; it doesn't exist.

[–] Passerby6497 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Switchbot (hardware) and home assistant (controlling server) might fit your needs. It still would require an app, but home assistant is self hosted and is a fantastic automation platform. It won't be as smooth as an all in one setup, but I find the tinkering is half the fun.

I've installed so many hardware items that are either "appless" and are controlled by home assistant or home assistant is compatible and replaced the app. Absolutely worth it IMO. I have been able to make a full self hosted/controlled and offline functional smart house.