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[–] Nuke_the_whales 12 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Communism depends on the people on top not being greedy fucks who will just keep the power instead of distributing it. Humans aren't like that. We're greedy for power and we won't share it from the top down.

Socialism is much better as it works within the confines of the established system and just wants to alter it. Communism work on paper but humans are the part of the plan that doesn't work. By the way I say this as a survivor of a murderous, Communist regime.

[–] Olhonestjim 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Communism depends on nobody being allowed on top.

[–] Nuke_the_whales 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Then who runs things? You can't govern as a committee of millions

[–] Olhonestjim 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

The workers run things. The crazy idea is thinking that society can't run without trust fund brats who contribute nothing while siphoning away 90% of the resources.

Millions of people can't run things? It seems pretty clear by now that small groups of people especially can't be trusted to run things. You've got to hear about this thing they call democracy. It's the tits. It can balance precariously, but it's the most free way to live.

The idea isn't to have too many cooks. If management is required, workers elect them from among their ranks. They serve for a term or two, then get replaced and go back to being workers. The workers can impeach them by vote. Wouldn't it be nice to be able to fire your lousy boss? Doesn't that make a lot of sense? The point is that nobody should ever be allowed on top for too long. Management should not be a position considered on top of others. The workers must have the final say in how a company and a government are run.

The only reason a few people are allowed to become fabulously wealthy and powerful is because we never established democracy in the workplace. The workers owning the means of production is the most basic principle of communism. Communism cannot exist as a dictatorship, it's antithetical to it. Communism is radical democracy at all levels.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Correct, which is why communism is a bottom up system.

Sorry you've been propagandized to believe otherwise.

[–] Nuke_the_whales 1 points 4 months ago

I was raised under a communist regime, so it's not propaganda but reality that showed me humans make communism impossible.