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[–] PunnyName 42 points 3 months ago (2 children)

When people say, "beggars can't be choosers", my response is always, "how do they stop being beggars, then, Karen?"

[–] thesporkeffect 28 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The conservative mindset believes social class is preordained. Karen believes people who have become homeless are destined to remain that way and it'd be a waste of resources to try to help them.

If you look at it through this lens, the phone is just prolonging their thrashing before they accept their fate and starve to death.

[–] PunnyName 15 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Yep. The video "Always a Bigger Fish" from Innuendo Studios helps to clarify that mentality quite well: https://youtu.be/agzNANfNlTs [21:46]

[–] thesporkeffect 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This video was great, thanks. I wish there was such a thing as a self aware conservative to refine the positions discussed and better understand how and why our worldviews differ

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

"My empathy is strictly local, and completely conditional."

That is rhe world view.

[–] Maggoty 3 points 3 months ago

Thank you for that video. I've been trying to say this for years but he says it so much cleaner and better.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I mean, I’m a conservative and I don’t believe this stuff, but I believe you if you’re saying you’ve met someone who does.

[–] PunnyName 2 points 3 months ago

If you think a hierarchy is natural, and that equality isn't achievable (or a waste of resources), you'd have a conservative mentality, and have a similar approach to the example Karen.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

They're supposed to suck it up, take the first and worst job they manage to plead and grovel for, and stick with it no matter how many health and safety violations you have to ignore, no matter how hard, painful, or tiring it is. If you'd rather die than keep working there, then go die.

If you don't, if you stick to it, if you get enough money to start renting some place, then you suck it up and live in the cheapest dump if you have to, show your gratitude to God, and you do everything in your power to fix it up and make it nice.

And it doesn't matter what state it's in, doesn't matter what needs to be done, doesn't matter what you've been taught or not. Just do the thing. If you prove to be bad at whatever it is, then that's what you are. And if the landlord won't let you do anything? Landlord who? Still your fault. Maybe you shouldn't allow yourself to give off the impression that you're an incompetent craftsman when you ask permission for something so crucial. It is shameful to live in a home out of order and in disrepair. So that's the next step, be ashamed of your condition, until you can afford to be a chooser. Maybe. Unless you'll never earn enough to live somewhere better. Then just stick with it. Live and work in shame of your incompetence.

[–] PunnyName 2 points 3 months ago

I hate how accurate this is.