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It was only a matter of time, TBH.
My interactions with the admins were not that great and they are super quirky about taboo communities. My experience was trying to get them to publish specific rules regarding drugs and such. (I am a huge advocate of psychidelics. Not only are they fun, but the medicinal value of them is absolutely amazing.)
At the time, they basically said "no illegal things". Ok, cool. I am in a legal state and can make my own psychidelics legally. Obviously, laws are different around the world, so some guidelines needed to be made for the communities to follow regarding this kind of thing. There are legal ways to share information, regardless of the subject.
I am not here to argue about what they choose to allow on their instance. What my beef was, is how they basically ignored such a broad topic and just left the rules "fuzzy".
They basically nuked the biggest shrooms community on Lemmy and fucked off. So, here I am on .ca and have been loving it since.
Anyways I'd be interested in better examples than lemmy.world admins not giving access to a substance (ab)use forum. Even if they banned an alcohol related sub I wouldn't be that concerned
You missed the point, unfortunately. No offense, but I personally don't care what your preferences are about specific topics: It's just not relevant, and I'll explain.
There are many things that may or may not be illegal where you are at, where the admins are at or even where the instance is located. There are ways to write simple rules that can meet a majority of any communities needs and my point is that the admins would not publish specific rules other than blanketing their decisions on catch-all instance rules.
While admin perogative is cool, letting a community build and flourish only to be squashed without justification or guidance for continuing is just bad practice. Building and maintaining a community takes work and time and for admins to ignore the requests of moderators just makes for unpleasant experience.
Also, there is a weird level of toxicity on lemmy.world. As it is usually the first hop for users fresh off of Reddit, that is kind of expected.
This isn't about my preferences, it's about "opinions of the admins of an instance that I can tolerate". And if they draw the line at substance (ab)use, in a defederated world, that's okay with me. If I see a rightwing republican nazi dipshit influx (just as an example) being tolerated, that'd not be okay with me, and I'd also leave.
It's their server, and people are free to move elsewhere. Now if this was a quasi monopolist centralized platform, I would tend to agree with you that it needs to be controlled more strictly what requires blocking / censorship and what does not.
Well, you mostly reiterated what I have been saying.
It's their server, and that is OK! I moved to a different instance already which is also good since I don't really have any part in their communities any more. That is just healthy for everyone. (These cross-instance conversations are an exception.)
Blocking and censorship is not what I prefer, but if the admins want to block people with red hair (as an example) they can. It's their perogative.
I mean this in a kind-hearted way: Users and moderators can be treated a bit like children. If instance rules and guidelines are consistent and applied equally across all communities, then that creates a healthy environment for all communities to prosper. Lack of consistency creates uncertainty which is painful and limits development. ("Development", in this case, means Lemmy in its entirety.)
In summary: If the admins want to block or limit activity, that is fine. The admins should adjust the guidelines accordingly and make that public information. If they choose not to do that, users and communities should move to other instances.
While I don't know why this specific community is moving to another instance but I can speculate about the reasons why.