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[–] thebrownhaze 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You want poor tax payers to fund free food for rich people?

[–] Xanis 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The kids don't have the money. Moreover, if anyone's taxes go towards a service, they should be able to benefit from that service. Not benefit more, just benefit period.

[–] thebrownhaze 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Couldn't disagree more. I provide for my kids. Kids dot have cars, but I drive mine around in my car because they are my kids.

Free Ubers for all children?

I do not want to see poor people working to provide free services for rich people.

I am astounded that is a controversial take.

And I am speaking as a functionally rich person.

[–] Xanis 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Everything we use is due to taxes. Honestly, as a functionally rich person you should be aware of that. I'm actually of the opinion that anyone in need should be able to utilize services that my tax dollars help fund.

This is how society works.

The fundamental difference is who is taxed more. A poor family's children should have access to food. A rich family's children should have access to food. Your children should have access to food my taxes help pay for, it's super easy, I'm surprised this is a controversial take.

But nah, you right. If your kiddos ever need an ambulance, fuck em. Swipe that credit card, I don't want to be paying to help as a "functionally poor person". /s But hey, you said it first.

[–] thebrownhaze 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Ok, so we disagree on the point of taking money from poor people and giving it to rich people, which I find odd. It's based on need. Using state resources to proved services for which there is no need is wasteful

My children don't need your resources when it comes to their daily needs. Yes, I am in favour of socialized healthcare (and schools, police, etc), why even bring that up?

If you are in favour of free healthcare, let's give everyone free cars?

[–] Xanis 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I disagree with keeping anything basic and essential from children. Hungry is hungry. Moreover, having money certainly doesn't mean any individual has basic humanity and their children may suffer from that. If we assume the needs, or lack thereof, of individuals based on a perception, we will miss those who legitimately have a need. This is incredibly simple. Or do you believe that a child who is hungry and yet has rich parents who can pay for all their needs is at fault?

I am also in favor of free healthcare. All of this can be paid for by taxes levied at individuals who have more than enough to spare. After all, if you're not in favor of the poor paying for the wealthy, let's flip that script. Bernie outlined it years ago, and despite common perception, the U.S. has rather low tax rates compared to many other countries. We could easily supply a solution to the needs of the many through a taxation of the wealthy. Functional ;) or not.

[–] thebrownhaze 1 points 3 months ago

I'm in the UK. We have the NHS. I am a supporter of it (used it twice last week).

I think focusing on the lowest common denominator always is not the best.

Tell you what, here is my system. Free lunches for all, but I you have to apply, that's it. I will but apply because it's not needed.

I think presuming the state should step in and overrule parents on the assumption that they will be bad actors is awful and not a what the state is for.