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FediLore + Fedidrama

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Chronicle the life and tale of the fediverse (+ matrix)

Largely a sublemmy about capturing drama, from fediverse spanning drama to just lemmy drama.

Includes lore like how a instance got it's name, how an instance got defederated, how an admin got doxxed, fedihistory etc

(New) This sub's intentions is to an archive/newspaper, as in preferably don't get into fights with each other or the ppl featured in the drama

Tags: fediverse news, lemmy news, lemmyverse

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This unfolded on "United States | News & [email protected]". Owner 'seahorse' showing the kind of person they are.

This is not how you run a server.

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[–] IndiBrony 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

And when the fair become unfair then we move onto the next, as it should be!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I feel like relying on benevolent dictators only to run communities isn't the best option.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

That seems fairly un-hobbity, with all respect.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Admins are legally responsible for anything that gets posted on their server, so they require control. They also put in time and money to keep the server running.

There may be other technologies where all-powerful admins aren't necessary, like peer-to-peer networks. But then everything gets much more complicated. No more opening a website and entering username and password, now users need to install a client first and use a private key. It's not clear who is responsible for moderation. Scaling will be much more difficult. Users don't want to store gigabytes of historical data on their devices, so some servers are still needed. The way Activitypub and Lemmy works is really a hybrid between normal websites which is a well-known paradigm, and p2p which is still experimental. The p2p part is only done on the server because it would be too complex otherwise.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm not saying that admins don't require control. What I'm saying is that there isn't an ability to distribute admin and mod duties on Lemmy in a more granular sense. There is only one admin head or one mod head and that can lead to mod issues the same that Reddit had.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I suppose this could be improved, but not sure how exactly. Afaik there is no issue about this yet, and anyway we lack development resources to implement everything. Sometimes I imagine how much we could achieve if Lemmy had 2000 employees like Reddit.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Afaik there is no issue about this yet

There have been issues with it, with don't somewhat popular instances becoming ghost towns because of admin actions. Part of the problem is that Lemmy out of the box doesn't really allow for anything other than one benevolent dictator.

anyway we lack development resources to implement everything

This is open source. There should be a published plan on development and a call for help to the community. If development can't transfer to a model where multiple groups develop different parts of the development plan, Lemmy isn't going to be able to grow.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

We will soon get a new round of funding from NLnet, once that is finalized we will publish a blog post with the milestones.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago

This question has been discussed at length in the thread. If people want to boycott Lemmy and switch to Mbin or Piefed, that's their choice, but maybe not relevant in this context?

Their comment here is valuable, posting this screenshot every time they comment seems counter productive.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

At some point one instance is going to have democratically elected mods and admins, that would be interesting.

In the meantime yeah, we are still using other people's servers