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submitted 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) by lawrence to c/comicstrips
 

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[–] Bytemeister 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

It's not, there is some nuance here.

The right-wing take is that we should use this potential crisis to lockdown borders, deny aid to others, and have it as an excuse why you don't have to do anything to fight climate change, becuase people in (pick whatever the current scary country is) are breeding out of control, and coming here and ruining things for us.

The left wing take is to promote healthcare, education, and contraceptive use, while providing aid, making those benefits available to everyone, and empowering yourself and others to act.

The facts about population dynamics is not a right or left wing thing. What you think is the solution to the situation is.

[–] masquenox 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It’s not, there is some nuance here.

Not really. The problem is fundamentally not one of population, but one of consumption. Specifically, the consumption of a small minority of rich people and the capitalist mode of production that keeps them rich. There may be no such thing as "overpopulation," but there is most definitely such a thing as overconsumption.

The last time I checked, it would take the resources of four earths if everyone on the planet consumed resources at the rate the average USian does, and keep in mind that this metric - average US consumption - is heavily skewed by the batshit insane consumption of the priveleged classes in the US.

[–] Bytemeister 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Ah yes, the US is the reason why other countries can't grow enough food.

Yes there is nuance here. It's idiotic to think that the interaction between population density, climate change, agricultural technology, supply line disruptions, international relationships and literally everything else, impacting the ability to provide food in a specific location on the planet is a black and white issue.

Shit, I should of realized it was you. The naive dogshit logic should have tipped me off.

[–] masquenox -1 points 4 months ago

Buy into right-wing fairy tales and apologetics all you want... it's only a matter of time before they come crashing down, just like the lies about your fetishized little white supremacist "heavenly kingdom" there in the middle-east came crashing down recently.

And there's not much you can do to stop it, apologist.