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What does any of that have to do with Israel’s genocide? No US politician is “Pro-Hamas” they’re at best against the funding and supplying of weapons to Israel due to the ongoing genocide.
Hamas was elected nearly 20 years ago at this point and there hasn’t been one since due to Israel’s occupation. Nearly half of Gazas population is children so wouldn’t have even been alive during that election. How are any of them responsible for Hamas actions?
When I say history didn’t start on Oct 7th I’m saying that this has been happening since the Nakba well before Hamas. Decades of apartheid and genocide are going to bread anger against the purpetrators. Especially when peaceful protests have been met with violance by Israel.
Any support Hamas has is largely because it’s one of the few organizations able to fight against Israel since Israel has been helping prop up Hamas.
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So Israel, after running an apartheid state for decades and trying to slowly wipe out the Palestinian people, started to fund Hamas to prevent a Palestinian state from forming because as you clearly pointed out Hamas is an extremist group it blew up in their faces but that’s somehow the fault of the innocent children?
Maybe Israel should have been pushing for a unified state that guaranteed rights to all groups.
I can't believe you read all of that antisemitic, anti-Israeli, anti-modern society propaganda, and connected that to Hamas' atrocities on October 7th, and actually said "What does any of that have to do with" Israel's response.
Are you fucking kidding me? You can't possibly be this stupid.
Get offline, go touch grass, and maybe take a history class or two, you're not ready for this discussion, kid
Lol you're clearly just going to continue to believe Israel's propaganda that it uses to justify an ongoing Apartheid state and genocide. I actually go out and organize in my community and am extensively read up on this subject but instead of countering any of my last points you want to tap out and try to use some cliche's to end the conversation.
Lol, you're clearly just going to continue to believe the terrorist organization Hamas isn't motivated to do what their founding document clearly states they want to do. Instead, you want to "tap out" and try to deflect from their horrible existence by claiming that anyone defending against them is somehow commiting genocide.
If you "organize" your community to support Hamas, you are a fool, and are supportive of their genocidal tendencies.
Never said I don’t believe that’s Hamas goal, what I’m saying is it’s largely irrelevant when Israel has been running an apartheid state and killing Palestinians decades before Hamas was even a thing.
Hamas wouldn’t exist if it wasn’t for Israel’s decades of cruel actions and more recently allowing of funding.
Think you need to ask why Israel allowed direct funding of Hamas with the clear objective of preventing a Palestinian state. Since like you pointed out they are an extremist organization that won’t help with long term peace in the area. That’s not “anti-semetic” propaganda that was literally from the Times of Israel.
Trying to deflect criticism of Israel as support for Hamas is bs. No US politician that’s spoken out against Israel or myself in any comment here has ever said Hamas “should be in charge” or “Hamas is a shining example” of what we want in the region. Stopping Israel’s genocide doesn’t mean the end goal is Hamas in charge.
We want a unified state where all citizens are treated fairly and equally. Israel has taken clear actions to prevent that.
"We want a unified state where all citizens are treated fairly and equally. Israel has taken clear actions to prevent that."
That's absolutely not what Hamas wants, as clearly defined by their forming charter.
You are completely, entirely, and wholly wrong. Get better, kid.