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[–] FlyingSquid 21 points 3 months ago (1 children)

And exactly how long was he in prison in the Netherlands? For repeatedly raping a 12-year-old girl?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I totally agree with you and fuck this guy, but there is some context to his sentence here in the Netherlands:

One legal distinction is that Van de Velde is unlikely to have been convicted of rape had he stood trial in the Netherlands rather than England. In England, sex with a 12-year-old is rape, regardless of the circumstances: an under-16 cannot legally consent. But after he was extradited to the Netherlands, having serving almost a year of his prison sentence, he was released after less than a month. Under Dutch law, his crime was deemed to be the lesser offence of ontucht, sexual acts that violate social-ethical norms.

From https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/jul/30/netherlands-child-rapist-olympics-steven-van-de-velde

[–] FlyingSquid 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Oh I know. It's disgusting, but it's the law and you can't retroactively change it. But they could, at the very least, not let the fucker on their Olympics team.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

100% agree. I'm Dutch and he's sent there to represent me/us/the country, it's fucking disgusting.

[–] FlyingSquid 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's interesting, isn't it, that none of the people in this thread defending him being on the team seem to be Dutch.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Is it? What do you read into that?

[–] FlyingSquid 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That Dutch people are apparently not as supportive of a child rapist from their country than other people from other countries are.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You, like most people in this thread, are confusing support for a person with support for a form of punishment which is humanitarian and rehabilitative, rather than vengeful and punitive.

[–] FlyingSquid 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

How is a year in prison for repeatedly raping a 12-year-old girl either humanitarian or rehabilitative?

He called it nonsense. He joked about finding 10-year-olds at this Olympics. He has never made a public apology. Where is the sign rehabilitation?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

He joked about finding 10-year-olds at this Olympics.

WTF? Seriously?

[–] FlyingSquid 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Someone in another thread showed a deleted Instagram post, but I can't find it now. I suppose it could have been a photoshop or something. Also, I don't speak Dutch so I could only approximate that's what it said. Anyway, the rest is definitely true.

[–] yamanii 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The times article said he was very transparent and remorseful though. I find it really bad that you people think a country would be so desperate as to let a criminal off the hook just because he's good at some sport, it's not like he's a powerful politician or something.

[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 3 months ago

Oh, well if the Times article said so.

Did they show exactly how he was remorseful? Because it didn't include a public apology.