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[–] saltesc 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I appreciate your optimism, but our best data is from modern history and the more recent it was, the more it has shown my (the) hypothesis to be true.

But I've gone through my phase of optimism. I've hit all the walls and then felt like a fool when I realised it's just history repeating. I do not believe that some single school of thought can work because somehow everyone was able to harmoniously agree and adhere to it—just look at religions ffs lol. All I know of this world is that the opposite will assuredly happen with a guarantee stronger than sunrise. If we have another consistent trait, it's naivety that all people and all societies are like us and therefore should be like how we most idealised the world of tomorrow.

But keep it up. It may not be you or those after you, but eventually it could be persistent enough that we evolve into it. Just obviously don't expect to be alive for that fruition.

Edit: Also, I had an edit about appreciating the discussion thus far, then I fumbled it re-editting and somehow lost it. It was complimentary and profound, and you just gotta roll with that. But to paraphrase; Thanks for the respect you've shown and sharing your perspective while hearing mine. This is how humans learn and get better. Sharing, respecting, learning. Oh, and that I admired your optimism and despised my pessimism, but they are both equally valid and important.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Thanks for the respectful answer.

If you want to experience an account that's a bit more optimistic, I'd recommend "The Dawn of everything". It has it's issues, but the core thesis of the book is that humans are able to chose their societal structures within the confines of their environment.