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[–] [email protected] 125 points 3 months ago (4 children)

People say cars give you freedom and while in a lot of places that you can't get anywhere without one by design that may be true, being able to get around under your own power has always felt like freedom to me.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 3 months ago (3 children)

While I like to cycle, I also like to go places. Where I live, some places are just too far to get to by bike (I don't have a shower at work and 70km one way is a decent ride).

To me a car provides a considerable amount of freedom. A bike provides me a different kind of freedom.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's really just situational mode of transport. If everyone ride a bike for trip shorter than 10km, if there's great public transport and bicycle infrastructure to support the biking system, and if places are build in way that's easier to have public transport to serve, then car will have the kind of freedom it promise.

Still, motorcycle does solve the issue, it's a middle ground for car and bicycle, it can go long range with less emission, it can free up a lot of space that car will take, and it also help you explore places. In Malaysia, there's almost an equal amount of car and motorcycle on the road. Sure, it does have problem with people riding like a racer and weave around due to not having enough enforcement, but I'd imagine the traffic get worst without it. And it's not like car didn't do that as well.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm in the market for an electric motocycle that can travel highway speeds and gave a span of at least 200 km for commuting.

Needs to be privacy friendly though. So no apps or accounts. Just a key and a simple dashboard.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Unfortunately i still haven't heard of any electric motorcycle that can travel such range. You have better option for ICE one though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

I believe zero motocycles offers some options, but they require you to use a cellphone as dashboard if I recall correctly

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What if you were to go half and half with a motorcycle?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

I'd go full on a motocycle if I found a good electrical one, got the loan for it, get a drivers license for it.

[–] 0laura 2 points 3 months ago

you're right, in that context a car provides a different kind of freedom. it shouldn't be like that though.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 months ago

It gives you freedom to drive to the next gas station.

[–] FireRetardant 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I lived rurally most my life and now I live near a downtown core. I still miss the country but i do love being able to walk to the majority of my needs.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

Exactly.

When I'm in my car, I feel trapped into going to places with decent parking lots. When I'm in my bike, I can go anywhere. I park right next to the entrance of stores, I can ride into and across parks, I can stop right next to the lake front, etc. Oh, and I never need to fill up gas or plug in my bike, I just hop on and go.

The main downside is all the cars in the way.