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  1. never signed up for anything like this,
  2. never donated to or signed up for emails from the DNC, et al.,
  3. political texts like this come all the time, and
  4. I hesitate to reply “stop” because I don’t want them to know this is a live number (is my instinct here outdated/inapplicable?)
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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

In Australia laws like what you describe exist, but political parties are exempt. I doubt that we're the only country where that is the case.

[–] Para_lyzed 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

While I would have to find the US law and examine it more closely to tell if that is true here, these groups are not actually representatives of political parties. They are groups of self-proclaimed political advocates that try to raise money to host events that raise awareness of their causes for local voters. But they would not qualify for an exemption due to association with a political party, as they are not officially connected to or endorsed by a party.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Political Communications to land lines are generally exempt from do not call. Cellular communications require prior consent, but the “consent” could be as flimsy as being registered with a certain party. You must be able to opt-out from the communication, and that’s why they have the “reply stop” verbiage. If they don’t honor your request, you should report it. Failing to actually make an effort to stop the communication (as is strangely being suggested) should be the only reason you would continue to receive them.

The direct affiliation with a party or campaign is not a requirement.

Here is the relevant information from the FCC https://www.fcc.gov/rules-political-campaign-calls-and-texts

[–] Para_lyzed 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Yes, I believe all of that is in line with what I have stated. Just to clarify, my interpretation of the previous comment was that political parties were exempt from the requirement to provide an opt out in Australia for political parties (by my interpretation, just the official parties and not unrelated political organizations), and they implied they believed it to be the case in many other countries. I have not recently reviewed the relevant laws, so I was not 100% certain if that implication would prove true in the United States (though was pretty confident that was not the case by my previous experiences with messages from officially endorsed organizations), but I went on to explain how these are not officially endorsed by political parties anyway, so if such an exemption did exist, it should not apply to this particular message.

Thank you for the clarification!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Yeah, I was adding clarification, not disagreeing!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, no.

That's covered by political activity in the same laws. The list of exemptions here is pretty broad and goes well beyond actual officially registered political parties.

Here's the list for the Australian Privacy Laws: https://www.alrc.gov.au/publication/for-your-information-australian-privacy-law-and-practice-alrc-report-108/41-political-exemption/exemption-for-registered-political-parties-political-acts-and-practices/

And here's the restrictions around spam: https://www.acma.gov.au/political-calls-emails-and-text-messages

[–] Para_lyzed 1 points 3 months ago

Interesting to note, though another user pointed out that this does not work the same way in the United States (political organizations still have to provide a means to opt out).