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[–] nyar 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This is very incorrect. Hate Stalin if you want but he wasn't a fascist.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Sta·lin·ism /ˈstäləˌniz(ə)m/ noun the ideology and policies adopted by Stalin, based on centralization, totalitarianism, and the pursuit of communism.

Sorry, but it's true, Stalin was a fascist. Democratic centralization is still power centralization, and runs counter to all of communism's economic ideologies.

[–] nyar 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

You've said nothing that actually fits Stalin into any of the many definitions of fascism.

No reference to Eco, no mention of palingenetic ultranationalism, you could maybe use Gregor to fit your view even though other scholars discount his positions and ideas, but you don't.

Even if you used the definition from a man killed as a result of Stalin, Trotsky, you still wouldn't have a definition that found Stalin to be a fascist.

Dislike him if you want but use words that actually fit him and what he did. Fascist isn't it.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I didn't mention them because they're literal set dressing used by a dictator to convince people he wasn't one. It's worse if the man truly thought creating a centralized power structure would be beneficial to Marxist principles, because he himself proved that it can't work.

Here's why: once you establish a centralized power structure, it doesn't matter how kind or charismatic the person (or small group) in charge is, it is the literal definition of fascism.

I don't know how to more clearly put this. Even if I give you the benefit of the doubt, he created a centralized power structure that was immediately corrupted and abused. You're saying "but look at all this other stuff" like it takes away from the fact that this is fascism.

What I don't get how you reconcile communism with totalitarianism (literally fascism with extra steps).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

once you establish a centralized power structure,... it is the literal definition of fascism.

By your definition almost any form of government is fascist. It that's your opinion, fine, but it's not the 'literal definition'.

[–] nyar 1 points 11 months ago

Yup, the poster is passionate but very very wrong.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 11 months ago

The reason fascism continues to exists is because of people like you giving everything to charismatic conmen. Stalin is dead and you continue to defend him as if he didn't do what he did. He's directly responsible for the state of Russia today, and you think that's somehow a good thing.

A power vaccum, like the one Stalin created as a result of his own death, ALWAYS gets filled by a greedy, power hungry asshole. It may take a few iterations, but the outcome is inevitable.

I find your (and the literal) definition of fascism to be lacking if it doesnt include Stalin. The charlatan dictator.