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Discussion of climate, how it is changing, activism around that, the politics, and the energy systems change we need in order to stabilize things.

As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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” Ordinary people are taking matters into their own hands today to do what our criminal governments have failed to do. We are putting our bodies on the wheels of the machine of the global fossil economy and saying oil kills; we refuse to die for fossil fuels and we refuse to stand by while hundreds of millions of innocent people are murdered. We are in resistance against our murderous governments and the criminal elites who are threatening the survival of humanity.

“The climate crisis will not end until every single country has phased out fossil fuels, but those who bear the greatest responsibility and have the greatest capacity must do the most. As citizens of wealthy countries based in the global north, we demand that our governments stop extracting and burning oil, gas and coal by 2030 and that they support and finance other countries to make a fast, fair and just transition. They must sign a Fossil Fuel Treaty to end the war on humanity before we lose everything. “

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[–] veganpizza69 16 points 4 months ago (1 children)

There is no way to do this without inconveniencing someone.

[–] HappycamperNZ 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

There isn't. But why attack the voting public instead of the unvoting industry?

Airlines produce considerable carbon per individual mile but are also one of the industries improving efficiency and fuel usage (because it's so expensive). Meanwhile ocean liners and cruise ships burn the cheapest, most polluting fuel outside of national borders.

[–] veganpizza69 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If you're calling for a ban on shipping, you deserve a special prize - but you'll never get it.

[–] HappycamperNZ 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Not a ban, a better way of doing things.

Don't hold one section of society responsible for overhauling the entire global system, but they can absolutely do better in their sphere of influence.

[–] veganpizza69 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I prefer not to distract myself with incrementalist "solutions".

[–] HappycamperNZ 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Don't let perfection get in the way of progress.

Expecting everything to overhaul at the same time and uproot embedded systems and culture overnight isn't being driven, its foolish. Unless you plan on nuking most of the planet its just not going to happen.

[–] veganpizza69 0 points 4 months ago

Don't let the illusion of progress stand in the way of meaningful change.